Digital Zoom versus Optical Zoom

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Ray, May 30, 2004.

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    Ray Guest

    Question, how long before digital zooming replaces optical? Seeing recent
    advances and the very high cost of powerful zoom lenses I have been
    wondering how long it will be before powerful zooms say 1000 are available.
    We do see high zooms on digital video already.

    Would be interested in comments on this.

    Ray
     
    Ray, May 30, 2004
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    spodosaurus Guest

    It won't.
     
    spodosaurus, May 30, 2004
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    spodosaurus Guest

    You mean digital zooming here, right?
     
    spodosaurus, May 30, 2004
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    Bob Williams Guest

    Probably never!
    Anything you can do with digital zoom, you can do with a photo editor.
    After all, that is all a digital zoom does is enlarges a center portion
    of the image. It does not add resolution .
    You can get by with huge zooms in camcorders because the image is
    displayed on low resolution devices (TVs or Monitors). If you freeze a
    camcorder image an print it at 8 x 10 it will look terrible. But on a
    screen it looks fine.
    My Opinion.....
    Bob Williams
     
    Bob Williams, May 30, 2004
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  5. And given how low resolution video is already, I wonder why people find the
    ability to see a hundred pixels on-screen at a time a useful feature.

    I suppose I should draw my curtains.
    Knee-jerk reaction:

    For the forseeable future, it won't. Digital zoom has not improved to a
    remotely useable level in any amount of time- it still amounts to a massive
    reduction in quality, and any claims of "enhanced digital zoom" are to an
    optical zoom what interpolation is to resolution. The only use it might have
    is in the occasional "art" photo where image quality sometimes doesn't even
    manage to be a secondary concern.

    However, I have been working with computers for quite a few years, and i'm
    learning to equate digital photography more with computers than cameras.
    Given the incredible rate of development in technology, I wouldn't be
    surprised if there are cameras with considerably higher resolution than
    strictly necessary in the next ten years. Perhaps when we are measuring
    resolution at the quarter-gigapixel level, and even a 10x digital zoom is
    yielding more resolution than any digital camera in current production, then
    consumer cameras may ditch optical zoom. I sincerely doubt professional
    cameras will ever ditch optical zoom- given how loathe I am even to crop
    pictures, I don't think I would ever voluntarily give up even the smallest
    slice of resolution :)
     
    Martin Francis, May 30, 2004
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    Mark B. Guest


    Umm, like, never.

    Mark
     
    Mark B., May 31, 2004
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    Skip M Guest

    Digital zoom would more properly be termed digital cropping. It really
    isn't an equivalent of "optical" zoom, it just takes a section out of the
    middle of the image and presents itself to you as the desired image. Your
    image is degraded in proportion to how much you have digitally "zoomed."
     
    Skip M, May 31, 2004
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    Jan de Vos Guest

    Well... Of course the advantage of doing it in-camera, is that the
    interpolation step is done /before/ compression, which in theory means
    that it should yield a little bit better image than doing it on your PC,
    later. That is a pretty small advantage, IMHO calling this operation
    'zooming' is very misleading and wrong.

    What might be a reasonable feature, in stead of digital 'zoom', would be
    if you could select a piece of the image and have that stored, without
    any interpolation, with less (or no) compression (= more detail). In
    onther words, leave out information in a part of the image you are not
    interested in, at the advantage of _adding_ detail to a piece of the
    image you are interested in.


    Jan
     
    Jan de Vos, May 31, 2004
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    stewy Guest

    I bought a Fuji S7000 last weekend and took a series of pictures at full
    digital zoom. After cropping sections at full screen resolution (72ppi) I
    realised the full optical zoom at 12.3mpxl was the same as full digital zoom
    at 1mpxl, but the degredation was very pronounced.

    Go with optical zooms, if you need more powerful magnifications move towards
    telescopes.
     
    stewy, Jun 1, 2004
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