Digital8 Tapes, is there a 2hr tape?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Dave Cooper, Aug 19, 2003.

  1. Dave Cooper

    Dave Cooper Guest

    I need to record some VHS tapes to my Sony D8 camcorder so I can
    transfer them to DVD.

    The main reason why I am recording to D8 first is because the VHS
    tapes need to stay in sync and I can use my D8 cam for this (TBC).
    Then I will use my MPG2 capture card to capture from my D8 cam instead
    of freeing up 25gigs to capture to DV, then encode to MPG2 on the
    comp.

    There seems to be only 60min D8 tapes out there, has anyone see or
    heard of any longer? My searches are not turning up anything.

    Thanks
    Chris
     
    Dave Cooper, Aug 19, 2003
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    MickeyM© Guest

    One hour is the MAX at this point.

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    MickeyM©
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    | I need to record some VHS tapes to my Sony D8 camcorder so I can
    | transfer them to DVD.
    |
    | The main reason why I am recording to D8 first is because the VHS
    | tapes need to stay in sync and I can use my D8 cam for this (TBC).
    | Then I will use my MPG2 capture card to capture from my D8 cam instead
    | of freeing up 25gigs to capture to DV, then encode to MPG2 on the
    | comp.
    |
    | There seems to be only 60min D8 tapes out there, has anyone see or
    | heard of any longer? My searches are not turning up anything.
    |
    | Thanks
    | Chris
     
    MickeyM©, Aug 20, 2003
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  3. Dave Cooper

    ehcorp1 Guest


    Sony D8 camcorders run twice as fast as conventional hi8 camcorders.
    Therefore a 2-hour tape is used up in 60 minutes.
     
    ehcorp1, Aug 20, 2003
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  4. Dave Cooper

    Mr Walker Guest

    For NTSC yes, but for PAL it's 120 mins X 2/3 = 90 mins.

    Cheers, Dom.
     
    Mr Walker, Aug 20, 2003
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  5. Dave Cooper

    Dave Cooper Guest

    Seems only European sites have this, at least from my limited Google
    and AV searches.
    Yea I realize this, but I figured for only 3 tapes it wouldn't be so
    bad. Seems only using my MPG2 capture card for export is a waste. I
    just wish VHS wasn't so prone to sync issues.
    I heard of this, I wonder what the quality is like.

    I think you talked me into just capping with the pass-thru and then
    encoding overnight with CCE. I'll give that a shot now.

    Thanks
     
    Dave Cooper, Aug 20, 2003
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    Joe Guest

    If its worth doing- its worth doing right... With that in mind - you should
    free up the hard drive space for a dv capture and use your digital8 as a
    pass through converter (certain models do this)
    You don't want to do on the fly mpeg2 compression - this is a poor looking
    image, especially since your source material is only vhs. There's a reason
    that tmpgenc takes an hour to convert one minute of dv video to mpeg2 - It's
    a quality compressor and the calculations it's doing are intensive. On the
    fly is quick, but the results are poor -
     
    Joe, Aug 20, 2003
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  7. LP speed works well with D8, as long as you play the tape in the
    same camcorder. It is less reliable when used to play in another, but
    since most D8 camcorders are made by Sony, the odds aren't too bad
    that it will work.

    I don't know which mpeg2 capture card you're using, but most won't
    get the quality for on-the-fly (esp. if it doesn't take firewire
    input) encoding compared to transcoding afterwards. You lose out on
    the space and quality advantages of multi-pass VBR, which can't be
    done on the fly.

    25 gigs of hard drive space is a relatively small amount nowadays.
    If nothing else, you can get an external USB2 or firewire interface
    drive to get more working space.

    However -- the D8 tape standard is set for 1 hour maximum. The
    extended play tapes are less durable, so I wouldn't recommend using
    them except when you can't change tapes each hour.
    Isn't there a very steep CPU requirement to do that on the fly?
    Anyway, with a hardware mpeg2 capture card, you're probably going to
    beat on-the-fly software.
     
    Jeffery S. Jones, Aug 20, 2003
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  8. Dave Cooper

    Dave Cooper Guest

    I've done plenty of on the fly MPG2 caps of lesser length and they
    look 1:1. All depends on your settings.
     
    Dave Cooper, Aug 20, 2003
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