Dirty old lenses...

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Frederick, Jun 3, 2005.

  1. Frederick

    Frederick Guest

    I will never buy a second hand lens again (sight unseen).
    I will never...(repeat 1,000 times)

    There is no such thing as a "real bargain". (repeat 1,000 times)

    5 hours yesterday, pulling a Nikkor zoom to pieces, cleaning it, and
    putting it back together. Second time this has happened to me. Once
    bitten twice shy? - I am a slow learner, but it has now sunk in. Never
    Frederick, Jun 3, 2005
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  2. Same thing happened to me today, Nikon 85mm f1.4 with loads of dust, etc...

    I'm just going to ask for my money back.

    Martin Francis, Jun 3, 2005
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  3. Frederick

    Frederick Guest

    My problem was that at auction, you can ask - but don't have the right
    to get your money back. You can only hope that the vendor has some
    integrity. However, when they have described the lens as in good
    condition, and have forgotten to mention that it has dirt, fungus, etc.,
    then they have already displayed that they really have no integrity.
    Frederick, Jun 4, 2005
  4. Frederick

    Trapezium Guest

    Funnily enough was bidding on a lens earlier. When it reached £130 I
    suddenly thought, "What the $%^& am I doing?! - I haven't seen this lens, in
    fact, I don't even know 100% whether the lens actually exists! - and, if it
    does exist, I don't know what condition it's in, and even if it exists and
    is in good condition, there's no absolute guarantee that I'll ever receive
    it once my cheque has been cashed!"

    So I bailed out - the lens will probably make at least £300, and I'm damned
    if I'll send that amount of money to a total stranger for goods I've never

    Remember Kids, Ebay - just say No.
    Trapezium, Jun 4, 2005
  5. Frederick

    Frank ess Guest

    Remember, kids, one swallow does not a summer make. Just say, "Maybe".

    I have two lenses from eBay sellers at a savings of four hundred
    dollars in transactions that would have totalled one thousand seven
    hundred dollars otherwise.

    Both lenses were perfect in performance and appearance. One had been
    in use for about two years, and was impeccably clean and smooth; the
    other was New In Box. My quibble was with the latter, since the
    barcode had been peeled from the box. Otherwise, all good. These have
    become my most-used lenses. Lucky me.

    Also cautious me: both sellers had perfect feedback, more than 200
    transactions as sellers, each. Other bidders were similarly historied.
    The auctions were 7-days, not your usual get-the-money-and-get-out
    ploy. I paid _via_ PayPal and a credit card, both of which facilties
    offer "buyer protection".

    Months down the road I'm pleased, $400.00 US ahead of the game, and a
    couple thousand images richer. I will be equally and appropriately
    hesitant next time I see a need for something offered on eBay, but
    "Maybe" will be my answer.
    Frank ess, Jun 4, 2005
  6. Frederick

    birdman Guest

    There is rarely any reason to purchase these items on Ebay. High quality
    used equipment can be purchased from established internet vendors with real
    return policies and product warranties. If you buy from Ebay you must
    prepare to be burned. Doubtless many vendors on Ebay are honest and
    legitimate individuals and companies, but not all. Caveat emptor to the nth
    degree . . .
    birdman, Jun 4, 2005
  7. Frederick

    Jeff R Guest

    eBay is evil.
    Don't *ever* open their site.
    Delete it from your bookmarks.
    Cancel your account, if you have one.
    Don't respond to any eBay emails.
    Everything there is overpriced, damaged or just non-existent.
    Don't risk it.
    Just say "no" to eBay.

    (they gone yet?)


    Back to browsing for bargains.
    Jeff R, Jun 4, 2005
  8. Frederick

    MadHatter Guest

    I bought a lens on Ebay. It was listed as being in excellent
    condition. The seller said that he was the original owner and had
    hardly used it.

    When I got it, I discovered that the elements were absolutely coated
    with dust, and the zoom ring moved like it was seated in sand.

    I wrote to the seller, and he accused me of either having buyer's
    remorse, or of having gotten the lens dirty myself. I eventually got
    him to pay for a cleaning, but I doubt that I'll be buying lenses on
    Ebay again.
    MadHatter, Jun 4, 2005
  9. Frederick

    Matt Clara Guest

    Got a great deal on a Nikon 17-35mm that way. It's a little scuffed up (pro
    use), but its glass, structural integrity, and functionality are all in
    excellent shape. Cost a grand.
    Matt Clara, Jun 5, 2005
  10. Frederick

    Matt Clara Guest

    Just to be contradictory, in separate transactions on Ebay I've purchased a
    24mm AIS, 28mm AIS, 105 f2.5 AIS, 17-35 AFS ED, 90mm Sekor (RB67), 50mm
    Nikkor-S enlarging lens, 90mm Grandagon, 210mm Sironar-S, Canon Canonet, an
    RB67, an F3HP, assorted film backs and holders, etc., etc., etc... I won't
    say all deals went smoothly, for instance, the enlarging lens had fungus
    (not much, but visible against a brightly lit background with the light
    striking the lens surface). I asked for my money back, but never got it. I
    did get $150 worth of ilford paper (guy worked for ilford, apparently),
    eventually. The lens cost me $52 and I'm really not complaining. All the
    Nikon lenses were in excellent shape, except the 17-35, which was scuffed up
    but optically excellent, and it was as described. I must say, my tactic
    comes in two flavors: either buy from the guy who has thousands of sales and
    still has 98%+ rating, or buy from the guy who's new to Ebay, and upon whom
    many others won't bid.
    Matt Clara, Jun 5, 2005
  11. Frederick

    Trapezium Guest

    You've got some terific images in there, Matt
    Trapezium, Jun 6, 2005
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    Matt Clara Guest

    Matt Clara, Jun 6, 2005
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