Disappearing Stills in Premiere 6???!!!

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by P.C. Ford, Oct 11, 2005.

  1. P.C. Ford

    P.C. Ford Guest

    Ok, I select a bunch of stills and automate to timeline. About a third
    are black. When you click on clip you can see it. But rendering makes
    them disappear.

    They are jpegs from digital cameras. Not compressed highly. About one
    meg in size down to .6 meg. In Photoshop open up and inspect
    properties. 72 resolution. Roughly 2000 pixels wide.

    Doesn't seem to be any difference between images that render and those
    that will not.

    Reduce image size 50%. Failed to render. Saved as tif. Failed to
    render.

    What gives?
     
    P.C. Ford, Oct 11, 2005
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  2. Convert them to bitmaps (.bmp).

    Gary Eickmeier
     
    Gary Eickmeier, Oct 11, 2005
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  3. P.C. Ford

    P.C. Ford Guest

    Thanks for answering Gary; should have added: converted to
    bmp...failed to render.

    On the Adobe forum...they say to convert to tif. It's like these jpgs
    have a poison pill in them. I think I will just shorten the darn bit
    so that I only have to use the still that DO work....but I would like
    to understand what the heck is going on.

    I presume it has something to do with all the size, nonsquare and
    other conversion issues the Premiere has to deal with. But why do some
    work?
     
    P.C. Ford, Oct 11, 2005
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  4. P.C. Ford

    P.C. Ford Guest

    I converted them to bmp via Ifranview and to mov via Quicktime Pro.
    YOu can see them on timeline, but they disappear when rendered. (!)
     
    P.C. Ford, Oct 11, 2005
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    Tim Witort Guest

    P.C. Ford seemed to utter in 4ax.com:
    If the image is exactly or nearly exactly the same dimensions
    as your aspect ratio (presumably 4x3), then this happens. The
    easy way to fix it is, for the images that "go black", uncheck
    their "maintain aspect ratio" checkbox. Not certain of the
    name of the setting because I haven't used Premiere 6 in quite
    a while. Images whose dimensions do not closely match the
    video frame's dimensions will render fine.

    -- TRW
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    Tim Witort, Oct 11, 2005
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    P.C. Ford Guest

    TRW...

    Ok you got it. I checked of the still which had "gone black" when
    rendered. All seemed to be close to be close to a multiple of the 4x3
    aspect ratio. I went to edit>preferences and unchecked aspect ratio.
    That did not work. In Photoshop, I then reduced size of width of image
    to 720 and pasted it into a new 720 x 480 file and saved as jpeg.

    This seems to work.

    Weirdness seems to be accumlating in Premiere 6. (My resize controls
    seem to have disappeared.) I've been trying to put off getting
    Premiere Pro but seem like the time has come.

    Thank you!!!
     
    P.C. Ford, Oct 11, 2005
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  7. When you load any bitmap image into Premiere giving it a number of frames
    duration the program creates a single frame video file with that duration.
    Whenever memory needed for this extends beyond the capabilities of your VGA
    overlay capacity the pictures turn black.

    If you want to get around this use the Batch Processor onboard Premiere. The
    Batch Processor uses the settings from your project Preferences/General and
    Still Image. If you have a still image set to 180 frames Batch Processing
    will create an AVI file 6 seconds long, and with your Export Movie setting
    set to Microsoft DV AVI the resultant file will also be in that codec ready
    for playback.

    Number your pictures in the order they should appear on the timeline. Go to
    Project/Utilities/Batch Processing click the Add button and select your
    pictures. You can select to use the entire folder of pictures using the
    button labeled 'Select '[Name of Folder]' You are then presented with Export
    Movie Settings. Make you choice and click OK.

    Now, click the Target button in the Batch Processing window to select the
    destination of your files. Once done there click the Make button in the
    upper right side of the window and bingo you're in business.

    Using this technique may take a little more disc space, but you will never
    be frustrated by blackened bitmaps again!

    --
    Larry Johnson
    Digital Video Solutions

    http://www.digitalvideosolutions.com
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    Larry Johnson, Oct 13, 2005
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