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    PeterN Guest

    PeterN, Apr 22, 2014
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Eric Stevens, Apr 22, 2014
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  3. This is the purpose of the rifle sling. There are engravings in old
    books on military tactics that show riflemen "slung up" from several
    hundred years ago.

    I have often used my camera strap in a similar way.
    Oregonian Haruspex, Apr 23, 2014
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    Savageduck Guest

    Yup! Addressed further back in this thread, and more likely used within
    the last 120 years with the advent of the bolt action rifle rather than
    several hundred years ago, and still used today even in Olympic prone &
    kneeling target shooting.
    All you have to do is develop a technique which works for you.
    Savageduck, Apr 23, 2014
  5. German 'freeshooters' used the sling hundreds of years ago, as shown in
    medieval German fechtbuchen.
    Oregonian Haruspex, Apr 23, 2014
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    Savageduck Guest

    That is interesting as the "fechtbuchen" seem to deal mainly with
    bladed weapons, maces, battle axes, and dueling techniques rather than
    firearms. I would be interested to see the illustrations of which you
    speak since i don't know of too many medieval firearms which were
    fitted with slings, or which had an appreciable degree of accuracy over
    the crossbow or longbow.

    So perhaps you could post a few examples of any of these "Freischütz"
    using a sling as a brace.

    There were hand cannons, the arquebus, and matchlock. The wheel-lock
    came along some time later. All three of those weapons were usually
    supported by, and fired with the use of a fork support, not a sling.

    The flintlock emerged in the 17th century to reach its pinnacle in the
    late 18th & early 19th century with the development of rifled
    flintlocks. The first slings started to appear in the 18th Century
    with arrival of the British "Brown Bess" and even then it was not used
    as a bracing or support device, or even described as such in the
    British manual of arms. I am sure that there were earlier slings, but I
    doubt that with the loading procedures of 17th & 18th century muskets
    that they were much more than carrying devices.

    Then the percussion cap was developed and everything changed again.
    When the rifled percussion weapons with accuracy over greater than
    typical 18th & 19th century engagement ranges came into general use,
    there were certainly marksmen who looked for every advantage when using
    their weapons, and using the sling as an improvised brace was one.

    I received extensive training in the use of a sling in youth
    marksmanship programs and in the military, and using a sling with a
    rifle has long been second nature to me. I also have an interest in
    firearm history which for me dates back almost 60 years.
    Savageduck, Apr 23, 2014
  7. I will look through my collection of fechtbuchen here soon. I have
    many in PDF format that I have collected over the years. Some of them
    might be best described as war manuals, but regardless I do recall
    seeing several illustrations that clearly show freeshooters slung up.
    Gewhere, Pistolen, Revolver by Heinrich Müller shows a number of
    illustrations and painings depicting slung rifles, as well as many
    examples of early rifles that show mounting rings, slots, and the like.
    De Geyn's book on weapon handling, "Waffenhandlung" is an example of a
    fechtbuch that is concerned with not only melee weapons but firearms,
    if you are interested. It however does not show slung rifles, but
    rather the depicted freeshooters are using monopods.

    While it's true that the standardized military firearms were not rifled
    until much later than these illustrations date from, the freeshooter
    was not enlisted in the military, but was rather a mercenary hired for
    a campaign or even a battle. They were armed with their own personal
    weapons, and had considerably more freedom on the field than a
    conscript or even many officers. This may be why the freeshooter's use
    of the sling is not included in military history, as their tactics were
    not derived from the standardized drills which have been studied

    I have often visited the firearms museum in Cody, Wyoming and there are
    many fine examples of rifled, reloadable breech loading cartridge
    firearms, of which the earliest I have seen date back to the late
    1500s. Many of these weapons feature sling mounts of varying kinds.
    Oregonian Haruspex, Apr 23, 2014
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    Savageduck Guest

    What I would find interesting is some sort of documentation to
    demonstrate just when a musketeer, or rifleman, or even some
    backwoodsman with marksmanship skills, took an accessory for carrying a
    long firearm and turned it into a makeshift brace.

    At some time one of these shooters passed his arm through the loop of
    the sling hanging from the fore-stock, and then wrapped the sling
    snugly across the back of his wrist before taking hold of that
    fore-stock, to discover that the end of the barrel stopped moving
    around so much. It might have happened sometime in the 18th century,
    but I would wager that it was an unusual practice. It is more likely to
    have come into general use in the later 19th century with the bolt
    action rifle, Probably around the time of the French-Prussian War and
    into the Spanish American and Boer Wars.
    Savageduck, Apr 23, 2014
  9. I would not expect to find handy documentation outside of the martial
    manuals / fechbuchen and period paintings. I would also contend that
    rifle sling use was an unusual practice and outside of the parade
    ground and rifle competition, it seems to remain so even today in our
    motorhome mobile infantry.
    Oregonian Haruspex, Apr 23, 2014
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    But others (including me) didn't.
    Eric Stevens, Apr 25, 2014
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