Do you make prints?

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Harry Lockwood, Dec 26, 2008.

  1. Since most of the posts here are from dslr users, I'm curious about your
    workflow output.

    In my case, I shoot film and use K7 (piezo) inks in my printer with the
    goal of getting a good ~10"x15" (min.) B&W print.

    How about you dslr shooters, how much of your effort goes into getting
    a frame-worthy print?

    Harry Lockwood, Dec 26, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    On & off, I'll go months with no printing then do a bunch. I've been
    doing a lot in recent weeks. I use an Epson R1800 13" wide and have done
    many 13x19. 5x7 'cards' are great for test prints. I recently got a roll
    & have been doing 13x24 (16:9 ratio) which is a lot of fun. In fact I
    got a roll of 'proofing paper' so that I don't sweat about the price,
    now I'm looking seriously at a CIS setup...

    Lyson ($345, special order)
    125ml ink bottles, equivalent to 10 sets of ink cartridges (can get
    twice as big bottles too)

    Media Street Niagara V ($245)
    -Set of 8 Bulk Inks - 4 oz (118ml) $135 or $19 ea, a little more than lyson

    Paul Furman

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    jimkramer Guest

    Hi Paul,
    Have a look at this system too: ($260) 4 Oz ink set

    I used these guys on the 1280 after the first set of replacement Epson
    cartridges ran out.

    With any of these you must use the printer or you will have supply problems.
    Ideally daily but at a minimum, a heavy use weekly. Don't get more ink than
    you will use as it will get "clumpy" after it sits for a long time. An
    ultrasonic bath would be a good investment to "mix" up the pigment inks too.

    jimkramer, Dec 26, 2008
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    jimkramer Guest

    I spend a great deal more time making a scanned film print than I do when
    working from a DLSR image. There is simply a great deal of clean up that
    needs to be done with a scanned film image that isn't usually needed with a
    DSLR image.

    Typically my prints are 12x18 or 16X20, but there are plenty of 8X10's both
    as prints and test prints. Still using the Epson 4800.

    jimkramer, Dec 26, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Ack, more choices!
    That's about the same price for setup & replacement... I guess they are
    all fine, not sure I want to figure out the differences frankly :-|

    I was wondering if there's a really lightweight proofing paper like
    magazine paper or something... if I have to print every week...

    Paul Furman

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    jimkramer Guest

    Just use regular paper, the point is to keep the continuous flow, flowing
    continuously. It doesn't really matter if you keep the print. :) You are
    paying more for the coating on the paper then you are for the weight of the

    Ask for sample prints on whatever paper you like to use and use the one that
    works best for you. :) I would recommend a color space print and a well
    colored image of your own so you can get a feel for the gamut.

    I know that Lyson and MSI offer custom print profiles for their inks on
    specific papers. Not sure about Media Street.

    jimkramer, Dec 26, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    I do have a box of 11x17 plain paper.

    Looks like they do not have profiles... then there's Inkrepublic... ahhh
    too many options <g>.

    Paul Furman

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    Noons Guest

    Harry Lockwood wrote,on my timestamp of 26/12/2008 11:48 PM:
    They all without exception "show" their images in
    web jpgs of equivalent definition of a 2MP camera.
    One wonders why do they bother with dslrs...

    I use HP vivera inks. Quite happy with the results so far.
    don't expect any replies that show any knowledge of how to
    print a reasonably sized image...
    Noons, Dec 27, 2008
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    D.Mac Guest

    Hi Harry...
    When I'm working weddings (most of the year) I print upwards of 200 photos
    in a week. About 2/3rds of them go in wedding albums. Between 4x5 and 8x12

    My work flow starts with a rather specalised camera (Fujifilm s5) that
    pretty much does away with blown highlights and blocky shadows. I shoot RAW
    mode for critical images and JPEGs for everything else.

    All my files go through DxO Optics Pro to correct any lens and image flaws
    and then into Lightroom where I apply an automatic set of filters to get my
    "look" into the photos.

    Occasionally, I'll use Photoshop to do any corrective work like get rid of
    hair over eyes etc. Even put open eyes on faces where they were closed then
    seperate them into sizes and send them off to a Pro lab to get prints.

    Any enlargements or canvas prints I do on a wide format inkjet but
    generally, I haven't yet seen an inkjet that can equal a "Lambda" or
    "Pegasus" photo printer for detail and image quality.

    I figure I spend about 2 to 4 minutes on each image after DxO has finished
    with them. On the ones I make bridal portraits out of, I've been known to
    "waste" a whole day getting one I'm satisfied with. There's a couple on this
    page you can get an idea what I mean from.

    All my B&W prints are done on a HP wide format using several shaded of gray
    pigment inks. Not much different from the Epson "K" inks. There's one on the
    front page here:
    D.Mac, Dec 27, 2008
  10. Have a look at Amadou Diallo's book "Matering Digital Black and White"
    for starters. His web site is

    Harry Lockwood, Dec 27, 2008
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