Dockable vs. non-dockable cameras?

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Douglas Carmichael, Aug 1, 2003.

  1. Why would anyone want to have a nondockable camera? Budget?

    (I haven't seen dockable backs for a lot of video formats.)
     
    Douglas Carmichael, Aug 1, 2003
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    Chris Fewer Guest

    Dockable backs exist for pretty much every format...

    And yes, budget is about the only reason somone would go for a one piece
    camera over a two piece, though weight is another possibility, the one piece
    cameras tend to be slightly lighter then their two piece counterparts.
     
    Chris Fewer, Aug 1, 2003
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  3. No dockable yet for Digital Betacam or HDCAM
     
    Moving Vision, Aug 1, 2003
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    Chris Fewer Guest

    Are you sure? I could swear that I've seen dockable digi-beta at some
    point...
     
    Chris Fewer, Aug 1, 2003
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  5. Not yet manufactured.

    Sony know if they were they'd be on the back of those cheeky little
    DXC35's in a flash!

    There's Beta SP, Beta SX, DVCAM, DVCPRO 25 and D9 still in production
    with Hi8 and SVHS no longer produced but still about.
     
    Moving Vision, Aug 1, 2003
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    Chris Fewer Guest

    There were U-MATIC SP dockable units as well.

    I could have sworn that I saw a Digibeta dockable, I guess I was mistaken
    though.
     
    Chris Fewer, Aug 1, 2003
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    Dave Guest

    And no IMX dockable either. I guess there is only one camera for that format
    on tape being manufactured by Sony, besides the Ikegami hard disk camera
    which apparently has this format's codec...
     
    Dave, Aug 1, 2003
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    Bill Davis Guest



    Dockables only make sense if your business plan is built around shooting
    for others.
    Lots of us only shoot for ourselves - meaning that we control the
    production process from start to finish.
    In this circumstance, choosing a dockable provides a stiff penalty in both
    camera weight and tying up working capital.
     
    Bill Davis, Aug 1, 2003
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    Larry Jandro Guest

    I worked with it throughout the entire lifespan of U-Matic, and have
    never seen, or heard of a dockable VCR. Who made it, and what's the
    model number..?

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    Larry Jandro, Aug 2, 2003
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    Larry Jandro Guest

    And if you need to use the camera in other configurations, such as
    with a triax adpater in a studio rig.

    Hey, how was that vacation..?

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    Chris Fewer Guest

    I will swear that I have seen a dockable U-MATIC deck... it maybe have been
    SP or non-SP, but I'm sure I've seen one...
     
    Chris Fewer, Aug 2, 2003
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    David McCall Guest

    I'll go with Larry on this one. If there were dockable U-Matics, it was
    a pretty well kept secret. Not only that, but the cameraman would
    have to be built like Hulk Hogan :)

    Perhaps you saw a dockable M-2. It was a little bigger than
    a Betacam dockable, and a little uglier, in many ways.

    I too was around for the full cycle of 3/4 U-Matic decks.
    From the early consumer decks, to the SP 950s. Remember
    the ever popular BVU 200 edit deck. There was a mod that
    you could install that would allow them to shuttle at a full 2X.

    David
     
    David McCall, Aug 2, 2003
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    Bill Davis Guest

    Fabulous, Larry.

    The caribbean was glorious.

    Ate too much, spent too much, drank too much, not necessarily in that order.

    But I admit I came back from the Disney World portion bound and determined
    never to live anywhere where the humidity is more than 20% between June
    and September.

    Still, nothing to complain about.

    Now it's back to work with three shoots for the fall season already on the
    books, including one in two weeks in Ohio where I'm tempting fate by once
    again working with the redoubtable Mr. Fransworth.

    BTW, if anyone knows any good crew people in or around Columbus, let me
    know. I want to fill in with locals rather than shipping more bodies
    around.

    We're shooting in a 620,000 square foot warehouse facility. So it's gonna
    be a BYO-HMI's party!
     
    Bill Davis, Aug 2, 2003
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    Larry Jandro Guest

    If he leaves early, Farnsworth can have a nice, easy ride to Ohio on
    his Harley.

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    Bill Davis Guest


    Snort.

    "Where's Waldo" without the top hat and striped shirt!

    OH well, at least the Asians will be pleased that the "they all look
    alike" jokes have moved on to middle-aged white bikers.

    And do be careful, amigo. No wheelies or donuts. You have committments, now!

    The other, other Bill
     
    Bill Davis, Aug 2, 2003
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    David McCall Guest

    At this point, you might want to just push it over the edge
    and into the water.

    David
     
    David McCall, Aug 4, 2003
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  17. Douglas Carmichael

    Chris Fewer Guest

    Doesn't surprise me at all... you don't even notice the weight after a
    while...
     
    Chris Fewer, Aug 4, 2003
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