I hope that I don't irritate a lot of folks by responding to this spam.\nBut I would like to share this data point.\n\nA few years ago, I bought a refurbished Canon S80. This camera had a\nserious defect. Video captures all featured a continuous, high pitched,\nloud audio tone. I found many posts on usenet, and sites such as DPReview\nregarding this issue. It appeared to me that this was a design defect,\nrather than a sample defect. So I decided against going through warranty\nservice. Instead, I asked my vendor to take the refurbished S80 back\nfor credit, and sell me a new S80 instead. I was fortunate that he\nagreed, although of course I had to spend additional money.\n\nI can find no defect in this S80.\n\nBased on this experience, I suspect that the word "refurbished" is\nsometimes a succint code word for "defective early designs that were\ncorrected later." I will hesitate to buy any refurbished product that\nis as sophisticated as an S80.