Don't vacuum a camera!

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Paul in Houston TX, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. Well, my nice little Panasonic ZS8 is no more.
    Took it apart to clean the dust out tonight and some of
    the wiring was sucked into the vacuum and destroyed.
    There is only one junk one on eBay and it looks really rough.
    The new version of ZS8 is substantially downgraded
    in what it can do compared to my 3 year old one.
    So, I Ordered a new ZS25 from B&H. It is supposed to
    be here (Houston) on Jan 17.
    Maybe it won't be as dust prone. But I doubt it.
     
    Paul in Houston TX, Jan 14, 2014
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  2. Paul in Houston TX

    Whiskers Guest

    On 2014-01-14, Paul in Houston TX <> wrote:
    > Well, my nice little Panasonic ZS8 is no more.
    > Took it apart to clean the dust out tonight and some of
    > the wiring was sucked into the vacuum and destroyed.
    > There is only one junk one on eBay and it looks really rough.
    > The new version of ZS8 is substantially downgraded
    > in what it can do compared to my 3 year old one.
    > So, I Ordered a new ZS25 from B&H. It is supposed to
    > be here (Houston) on Jan 17.
    > Maybe it won't be as dust prone. But I doubt it.


    Use the little 'puffer brushes' meant for dusting lenses, or some other
    gentle 'blower' of dry air. Or get one of the 'waterproof' or 'tough' or
    'rugged' models and save yourself a lot of annoyance.

    --
    -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    -- Whiskers
    -- ~~~~~~~~~~
     
    Whiskers, Jan 14, 2014
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  3. Paul in Houston TX

    Giff Guest

    On 1/14/14 3:27 PM, Whiskers wrote:

    > Use the little 'puffer brushes' meant for dusting lenses, or some other
    > gentle 'blower' of dry air. Or get one of the 'waterproof' or 'tough' or
    > 'rugged' models and save yourself a lot of annoyance.


    I recently got a Nikon D7100. They say it's sealed. What do you guys think?

    I just took it to the desert for several hours (but without ever
    changing the lens), should I try to (gently) clean it or can I trust the
    sealing? Also, how does one notice whether some dust/sand found its way in?

    Thanks,
    G
     
    Giff, Jan 14, 2014
    #3
  4. Paul in Houston TX

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2014-01-14 14:44:17 +0000, Giff <> said:

    > On 1/14/14 3:27 PM, Whiskers wrote:
    >
    >> Use the little 'puffer brushes' meant for dusting lenses, or some other
    >> gentle 'blower' of dry air. Or get one of the 'waterproof' or 'tough' or
    >> 'rugged' models and save yourself a lot of annoyance.

    >
    > I recently got a Nikon D7100. They say it's sealed. What do you guys think?
    >
    > I just took it to the desert for several hours (but without ever
    > changing the lens), should I try to (gently) clean it or can I trust
    > the sealing? Also, how does one notice whether some dust/sand found its
    > way in?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > G


    If you own a DSLR you should learn about the basic vulnerability to
    dust, especially when changing lenses in a windy environment. (It
    doesn't have to be particularly dusty) That is a time when sealing
    claims by the manufacturer are worthless. Then remember, a zoom lens
    behaves like a bellows and some lenses can act like a pump exacerbating
    the dust problem.
    So, learning some cleaning techniques is very important.

    1: get a blower such as a Giottos rocket. DO NOT USE CANNED AIR!!
    This is useful for blowing dust off the exterior of camera & lenses,
    especially at vulnerable points such as telescoping sections of zoom
    lenses. An exterior removal of obvious dust should be done before going
    to the mirror/sensor chamber. Then use a few puff of the blower to
    clean the mirror/sensor chamber.

    2: get a soft lint free cloth to wipe down the exterior for heavier
    dust contamination.

    3: learn how to clean sensors with the right tools, sooner or later you
    will have dust to clean which the automatic camera system isn't able to
    handle. Some of that can be dealt with using a blower, but persistent
    dust spots will need wet cleaning. I recommend the following:
    < http://www.2filter.com/prices/products/eclipse.html >
    < http://www.micro-tools.com/store/SearchByCategory.aspx?CategoryCode=6 >
    < http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com >

    If you are on the road and are going to be in a dusty, windy
    environment and know you might have to change lenses, pack a change bag
    in with your kit. A pillow case does quite well for this. otherwise do
    your best to protect the exposed mirror/sensor chamber from the wind.



    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Jan 14, 2014
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  5. Paul in Houston TX

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2014-01-14 17:13:55 +0000, Scott Schuckert <> said:

    > In article <lb3ifu$auk$>, Giff <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> On 1/14/14 3:27 PM, Whiskers wrote:
    >>
    >>> Use the little 'puffer brushes' meant for dusting lenses, or some other
    >>> gentle 'blower' of dry air. Or get one of the 'waterproof' or 'tough' or
    >>> 'rugged' models and save yourself a lot of annoyance.

    >>
    >> I recently got a Nikon D7100. They say it's sealed. What do you guys think?
    >>
    >> I just took it to the desert for several hours (but without ever
    >> changing the lens), should I try to (gently) clean it or can I trust the
    >> sealing? Also, how does one notice whether some dust/sand found its way in?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> G

    >
    > Tell you what I do: If using a camera in a dusty environment, I go over
    > the outside with a soft paint brush to remove surface dirt. Much
    > better, in most cases, than using compressed gas which can force grit
    > into the cracks.


    Agreed, a brush is a useful tool for exterior and a separate brush for
    the chamber work very well. NEVER USE COMPRESSED OR CANNED AIR/GAS!!!
    use a bulb type blower.

    > If there's evidence that grit has gotten inside the
    > camera, I either (depending on the type and value of the camera) either
    > send the camera back to the manufacturer for professional cleaning, or
    > ignore it and hope for the best.


    Having had my first DSLR sensor dust education with a D70, which is/was
    a veritable dust magnet, I was pretty much pushed into learning what to
    do using wet and dry cleaning methods. If I had to send that camera out
    to service with the frequenct it needed cleaning, they would have had
    the camera more than I did.

    > If you're not an experienced camera technician with appropriate tools,
    > the chances are far higher you'll cause damage than prevent it. For
    > most modern lower-priced cameras, they're not designed to be serviced
    > at all.



    Learn how to clean stuff, and buy the tools.
    < http://www.cleaningdigitalcameras.com >
    < http://www.2filter.com/prices/products/eclipse.html >
    < http://www.micro-tools.com/store/SearchByCategory.aspx?CategoryCode=6 >


    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Jan 14, 2014
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  6. Paul in Houston TX

    Whiskers Guest

    On 2014-01-14, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
    > On 2014-01-14 14:44:17 +0000, Giff <> said:


    [...]

    > If you are on the road and are going to be in a dusty, windy
    > environment and know you might have to change lenses, pack a change bag
    > in with your kit. A pillow case does quite well for this. otherwise do
    > your best to protect the exposed mirror/sensor chamber from the wind.


    Not forgetting to remove all dust from the outside of the lenses and
    camera, before putting them into the changing bag!

    I still have a proper 'changing bag' with long sleeves with elasticated
    cuffs, and light-proof fastenings. One of those would be ideal, with
    practice, but for just changing lenses it might be easier to use a
    transparent bag!

    --
    -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    -- Whiskers
    -- ~~~~~~~~~~
     
    Whiskers, Jan 14, 2014
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  7. Paul in Houston TX

    PeterN Guest

    On 1/14/2014 1:36 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
    > Well, my nice little Panasonic ZS8 is no more.
    > Took it apart to clean the dust out tonight and some of
    > the wiring was sucked into the vacuum and destroyed.
    > There is only one junk one on eBay and it looks really rough.
    > The new version of ZS8 is substantially downgraded
    > in what it can do compared to my 3 year old one.
    > So, I Ordered a new ZS25 from B&H. It is supposed to
    > be here (Houston) on Jan 17.
    > Maybe it won't be as dust prone. But I doubt it.


    Good luck and enjoy it.
    BTW did your wife, or significant other, buty that explanation? ;-)

    --
    PeterN
     
    PeterN, Jan 14, 2014
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  8. Giff wrote:
    > On 1/14/14 3:27 PM, Whiskers wrote:
    >
    >> Use the little 'puffer brushes' meant for dusting lenses, or some other
    >> gentle 'blower' of dry air. Or get one of the 'waterproof' or 'tough' or
    >> 'rugged' models and save yourself a lot of annoyance.

    >
    > I recently got a Nikon D7100. They say it's sealed. What do you guys think?
    >
    > I just took it to the desert for several hours (but without ever
    > changing the lens), should I try to (gently) clean it or can I trust the
    > sealing? Also, how does one notice whether some dust/sand found its way in?


    Lens makes a crunching sound while zooming.
    Pictures end up like these:
    http://zeezug.imgur.com

    > Thanks,
    > G
     
    Paul in Houston TX, Jan 15, 2014
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  9. Paul in Houston TX

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2014-01-15 01:02:41 +0000, Paul in Houston TX <> said:

    > Giff wrote:
    >> On 1/14/14 3:27 PM, Whiskers wrote:
    >>
    >>> Use the little 'puffer brushes' meant for dusting lenses, or some other
    >>> gentle 'blower' of dry air. Or get one of the 'waterproof' or 'tough' or
    >>> 'rugged' models and save yourself a lot of annoyance.

    >>
    >> I recently got a Nikon D7100. They say it's sealed. What do you guys think?
    >>
    >> I just took it to the desert for several hours (but without ever
    >> changing the lens), should I try to (gently) clean it or can I trust
    >> the sealing? Also, how does one notice whether some dust/sand found its
    >> way in?

    >
    > Lens makes a crunching sound while zooming.
    > Pictures end up like these:
    > http://zeezug.imgur.com


    Aagh!! The pox! The pox!, Unclean! Unclean!

    That is a heavy dust problem you could fix much of it in post, but that
    soon becomes tiresome.
    Here is a peek at the reality.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_528.jpg >
    and a clean up;
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/1 - s5fOA8sF.jpg >

    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Jan 15, 2014
    #9
  10. Savageduck wrote:
    > On 2014-01-15 01:02:41 +0000, Paul in Houston TX <> said:
    >
    >> Giff wrote:
    >>> On 1/14/14 3:27 PM, Whiskers wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Use the little 'puffer brushes' meant for dusting lenses, or some other
    >>>> gentle 'blower' of dry air. Or get one of the 'waterproof' or
    >>>> 'tough' or
    >>>> 'rugged' models and save yourself a lot of annoyance.
    >>>
    >>> I recently got a Nikon D7100. They say it's sealed. What do you guys
    >>> think?
    >>>
    >>> I just took it to the desert for several hours (but without ever
    >>> changing the lens), should I try to (gently) clean it or can I trust
    >>> the sealing? Also, how does one notice whether some dust/sand found
    >>> its way in?

    >>
    >> Lens makes a crunching sound while zooming.
    >> Pictures end up like these:
    >> http://zeezug.imgur.com

    >
    > Aagh!! The pox! The pox!, Unclean! Unclean!
    >
    > That is a heavy dust problem you could fix much of it in post, but that
    > soon becomes tiresome.
    > Here is a peek at the reality.
    > < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_528.jpg >
    > and a clean up;
    > < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/1 - s5fOA8sF.jpg >


    Thank you Mr. Duck!
    That cleaned up the spots nicely.

    I sometimes use Gimp to clean up a few of the important photos
    that will go to customers, or on the covers of site equipment manuals.
    But, as you said, it soon becomes tiresome.

    Thank you for the links to camera cleaning.
    It is greatly appreciated.
    I never thought about zooming acting like a bellows...
    how interesting!

    I like the Panasonic ZS cameras because they fit nearly all of
    my requirements.
    However, they are dust prone and cleaning them is a 4-6 hour
    operation involving a large number of microscopic screws and
    lots of little parts.
    Dicapac and plastic bags help but often I cannot use either.
    I put polyester tape over all seams and holes that don't move
    but the dust still gets in. Covered the LCD in mylar tape
    for scratch resistance.
     
    Paul in Houston TX, Jan 16, 2014
    #10
  11. Paul in Houston TX

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2014-01-16 01:24:30 +0000, Paul in Houston TX <> said:

    > Savageduck wrote:
    >> On 2014-01-15 01:02:41 +0000, Paul in Houston TX <> said:
    >>
    >>> Giff wrote:
    >>>> On 1/14/14 3:27 PM, Whiskers wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Use the little 'puffer brushes' meant for dusting lenses, or some other
    >>>>> gentle 'blower' of dry air. Or get one of the 'waterproof' or 'tough' or
    >>>>> 'rugged' models and save yourself a lot of annoyance.
    >>>>
    >>>> I recently got a Nikon D7100. They say it's sealed. What do you guys think?
    >>>>
    >>>> I just took it to the desert for several hours (but without ever
    >>>> changing the lens), should I try to (gently) clean it or can I trust
    >>>> the sealing? Also, how does one notice whether some dust/sand found its
    >>>> way in?
    >>>
    >>> Lens makes a crunching sound while zooming.
    >>> Pictures end up like these:
    >>> http://zeezug.imgur.com

    >>
    >> Aagh!! The pox! The pox!, Unclean! Unclean!
    >>
    >> That is a heavy dust problem you could fix much of it in post, but that
    >> soon becomes tiresome.
    >> Here is a peek at the reality.
    >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_528.jpg >
    >> and a clean up;
    >> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/1 - s5fOA8sF.jpg >

    >
    > Thank you Mr. Duck!
    > That cleaned up the spots nicely.
    >
    > I sometimes use Gimp to clean up a few of the important photos
    > that will go to customers, or on the covers of site equipment manuals.
    > But, as you said, it soon becomes tiresome.
    >
    > Thank you for the links to camera cleaning.
    > It is greatly appreciated.
    > I never thought about zooming acting like a bellows...
    > how interesting!
    >
    > I like the Panasonic ZS cameras because they fit nearly all of
    > my requirements.
    > However, they are dust prone and cleaning them is a 4-6 hour
    > operation involving a large number of microscopic screws and
    > lots of little parts.
    > Dicapac and plastic bags help but often I cannot use either.
    > I put polyester tape over all seams and holes that don't move
    > but the dust still gets in. Covered the LCD in mylar tape
    > for scratch resistance.


    We have discussed this problem before, and I believe now as then that
    the same sort of protection you might use for diving is what you need
    for some sort of total environment protection, and there are no real
    bargains in that area other than the Dicapac. You say the Dicapac
    helps, but you cannot use it. At this point I wonder why. It seems much
    simpler than constantly dismantling and cleaning your camera. That is
    as you just told us a risky proposition. So, sometimes you might just
    have to forego the shirt pocket option.

    < http://store.aikotradingstore.com/panasonic-underwater-camera-housing/ >
    <
    leisurepro.com/1/2/34696-ikelite-underwater-housing-panasonic-lumix-zs25-tz35.html
    >

    You might check with B&H, but this looks like the Panasonic product. I
    am sure that they would be able to steer you in the right direction.
    <
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/946744-REG/panasonic_dmw_mctz35_marine_case_for.html
    >


    Panasonic sells it for $269.96
    < http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMW-MCTZ35 >

    So you might as well give B&H a call and have them add one to your order.

    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Jan 16, 2014
    #11
  12. Paul in Houston TX

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2014-01-16 02:35:27 +0000, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:

    > On 2014-01-16 01:24:30 +0000, Paul in Houston TX <> said:
    >
    >> Savageduck wrote:
    >>> On 2014-01-15 01:02:41 +0000, Paul in Houston TX <> said:
    >>>
    >>>> Giff wrote:
    >>>>> On 1/14/14 3:27 PM, Whiskers wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Use the little 'puffer brushes' meant for dusting lenses, or some other
    >>>>>> gentle 'blower' of dry air. Or get one of the 'waterproof' or 'tough' or
    >>>>>> 'rugged' models and save yourself a lot of annoyance.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I recently got a Nikon D7100. They say it's sealed. What do you guys think?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I just took it to the desert for several hours (but without ever
    >>>>> changing the lens), should I try to (gently) clean it or can I trust
    >>>>> the sealing? Also, how does one notice whether some dust/sand found its
    >>>>> way in?
    >>>>
    >>>> Lens makes a crunching sound while zooming.
    >>>> Pictures end up like these:
    >>>> http://zeezug.imgur.com
    >>>
    >>> Aagh!! The pox! The pox!, Unclean! Unclean!
    >>>
    >>> That is a heavy dust problem you could fix much of it in post, but that
    >>> soon becomes tiresome.
    >>> Here is a peek at the reality.
    >>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_528.jpg >
    >>> and a clean up;
    >>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/1 - s5fOA8sF.jpg >

    >>
    >> Thank you Mr. Duck!
    >> That cleaned up the spots nicely.
    >>
    >> I sometimes use Gimp to clean up a few of the important photos
    >> that will go to customers, or on the covers of site equipment manuals.
    >> But, as you said, it soon becomes tiresome.
    >>
    >> Thank you for the links to camera cleaning.
    >> It is greatly appreciated.
    >> I never thought about zooming acting like a bellows...
    >> how interesting!
    >>
    >> I like the Panasonic ZS cameras because they fit nearly all of
    >> my requirements.
    >> However, they are dust prone and cleaning them is a 4-6 hour
    >> operation involving a large number of microscopic screws and
    >> lots of little parts.
    >> Dicapac and plastic bags help but often I cannot use either.
    >> I put polyester tape over all seams and holes that don't move
    >> but the dust still gets in. Covered the LCD in mylar tape
    >> for scratch resistance.

    >
    > We have discussed this problem before, and I believe now as then that
    > the same sort of protection you might use for diving is what you need
    > for some sort of total environment protection, and there are no real
    > bargains in that area other than the Dicapac. You say the Dicapac
    > helps, but you cannot use it. At this point I wonder why. It seems much
    > simpler than constantly dismantling and cleaning your camera. That is
    > as you just told us a risky proposition. So, sometimes you might just
    > have to forego the shirt pocket option.
    >
    > < http://store.aikotradingstore.com/panasonic-underwater-camera-housing/ >
    > <
    > leisurepro.com/1/2/34696-ikelite-underwater-housing-panasonic-lumix-zs25-tz35.html


    You
    >
    > might check with B&H, but this looks like the Panasonic product. I am
    > sure that they would be able to steer you in the right direction.
    > <
    > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/946744-REG/panasonic_dmw_mctz35_marine_case_for.html



    Panasonic
    >
    > sells it for $269.96
    > < http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMW-MCTZ35 >
    >
    > So you might as well give B&H a call and have them add one to your order.


    With one of those all you have to do is rinse the dust off before
    opening the case to get to a clean undamaged camera.

    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Jan 16, 2014
    #12
  13. Savageduck wrote:
    > On 2014-01-16 02:35:27 +0000, Savageduck
    > <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:
    >
    >> On 2014-01-16 01:24:30 +0000, Paul in Houston TX <> said:
    >>
    >>> Savageduck wrote:
    >>>> On 2014-01-15 01:02:41 +0000, Paul in Houston TX <>
    >>>> said:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Giff wrote:
    >>>>>> On 1/14/14 3:27 PM, Whiskers wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Use the little 'puffer brushes' meant for dusting lenses, or some
    >>>>>>> other
    >>>>>>> gentle 'blower' of dry air. Or get one of the 'waterproof' or
    >>>>>>> 'tough' or
    >>>>>>> 'rugged' models and save yourself a lot of annoyance.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I recently got a Nikon D7100. They say it's sealed. What do you
    >>>>>> guys think?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I just took it to the desert for several hours (but without ever
    >>>>>> changing the lens), should I try to (gently) clean it or can I
    >>>>>> trust the sealing? Also, how does one notice whether some
    >>>>>> dust/sand found its way in?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Lens makes a crunching sound while zooming.
    >>>>> Pictures end up like these:
    >>>>> http://zeezug.imgur.com
    >>>>
    >>>> Aagh!! The pox! The pox!, Unclean! Unclean!
    >>>>
    >>>> That is a heavy dust problem you could fix much of it in post, but
    >>>> that soon becomes tiresome.
    >>>> Here is a peek at the reality.
    >>>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_528.jpg >
    >>>> and a clean up;
    >>>> < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/1 - s5fOA8sF.jpg >
    >>>
    >>> Thank you Mr. Duck!
    >>> That cleaned up the spots nicely.
    >>>
    >>> I sometimes use Gimp to clean up a few of the important photos
    >>> that will go to customers, or on the covers of site equipment manuals.
    >>> But, as you said, it soon becomes tiresome.
    >>>
    >>> Thank you for the links to camera cleaning.
    >>> It is greatly appreciated.
    >>> I never thought about zooming acting like a bellows...
    >>> how interesting!
    >>>
    >>> I like the Panasonic ZS cameras because they fit nearly all of
    >>> my requirements.
    >>> However, they are dust prone and cleaning them is a 4-6 hour
    >>> operation involving a large number of microscopic screws and
    >>> lots of little parts.
    >>> Dicapac and plastic bags help but often I cannot use either.
    >>> I put polyester tape over all seams and holes that don't move
    >>> but the dust still gets in. Covered the LCD in mylar tape
    >>> for scratch resistance.

    >>
    >> We have discussed this problem before, and I believe now as then that
    >> the same sort of protection you might use for diving is what you need
    >> for some sort of total environment protection, and there are no real
    >> bargains in that area other than the Dicapac. You say the Dicapac
    >> helps, but you cannot use it. At this point I wonder why. It seems
    >> much simpler than constantly dismantling and cleaning your camera.
    >> That is as you just told us a risky proposition. So, sometimes you
    >> might just have to forego the shirt pocket option.
    >>
    >> <
    >> http://store.aikotradingstore.com/panasonic-underwater-camera-housing/ >
    >> <
    >> leisurepro.com/1/2/34696-ikelite-underwater-housing-panasonic-lumix-zs25-tz35.html
    >>

    >
    > You
    >>
    >> might check with B&H, but this looks like the Panasonic product. I am
    >> sure that they would be able to steer you in the right direction.
    >> <
    >> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/946744-REG/panasonic_dmw_mctz35_marine_case_for.html
    >>

    >
    >
    > Panasonic
    >>
    >> sells it for $269.96
    >> < http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMW-MCTZ35 >
    >>
    >> So you might as well give B&H a call and have them add one to your order.

    >
    > With one of those all you have to do is rinse the dust off before
    > opening the case to get to a clean undamaged camera.


    Thanks!
    I had looked at all of them in the last year or so and looked at
    them all again on Monday. All have drawbacks preventing their use
    for work. My best option is a plastic baggie when not being used.
    It's just something that I have to live with.
     
    Paul in Houston TX, Jan 16, 2014
    #13
  14. Paul in Houston TX

    Whiskers Guest

    On 2014-01-16, Paul in Houston TX <> wrote:
    > Savageduck wrote:
    >> On 2014-01-16 02:35:27 +0000, Savageduck
    >> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:
    >>> On 2014-01-16 01:24:30 +0000, Paul in Houston TX <>
    >>> said:
    >>>> Savageduck wrote:
    >>>>> On 2014-01-15 01:02:41 +0000, Paul in Houston TX
    >>>>> <> said:
    >>>>>> Giff wrote:
    >>>>>>> On 1/14/14 3:27 PM, Whiskers wrote:


    [...]

    >>> http://store.aikotradingstore.com/panasonic-underwater-camera-housing/
    >>> > <
    >>> > leisurepro.com/1/2/34696-ikelite-underwater-housing-panasonic-lumix-zs25-tz35.html
    >>>
    >>> You
    >>> might check with B&H, but this looks like the Panasonic product. I
    >>> am sure that they would be able to steer you in the right direction.
    >>> <
    >>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/946744-REG/panasonic_dmw_mctz35_marine_case_for.html
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >>> Panasonic
    >>> sells it for $269.96 <
    >>> http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMW-MCTZ35 >
    >>>
    >>> So you might as well give B&H a call and have them add one to your
    >>> order.

    >>
    >> With one of those all you have to do is rinse the dust off before
    >> opening the case to get to a clean undamaged camera.

    >
    > Thanks! I had looked at all of them in the last year or so and looked
    > at them all again on Monday. All have drawbacks preventing their use
    > for work. My best option is a plastic baggie when not being used.
    > It's just something that I have to live with.


    I do hope you're removing all external dust from the camera before you
    put it into any sort of bag - otherwise all you're doing is giving it a
    dust bath. Also clean the outside of the bag itself before opening it,
    otherwise dust will transfer from the outside to the inside.

    --
    -- ^^^^^^^^^^
    -- Whiskers
    -- ~~~~~~~~~~
     
    Whiskers, Jan 16, 2014
    #14
  15. Paul in Houston TX

    otter Guest

    On 1/14/2014 12:36 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
    > Well, my nice little Panasonic ZS8 is no more.
    > Took it apart to clean the dust out tonight and some of
    > the wiring was sucked into the vacuum and destroyed.
    > There is only one junk one on eBay and it looks really rough.
    > The new version of ZS8 is substantially downgraded
    > in what it can do compared to my 3 year old one.
    > So, I Ordered a new ZS25 from B&H. It is supposed to
    > be here (Houston) on Jan 17.
    > Maybe it won't be as dust prone. But I doubt it.


    Sorry, but this cracks me up :).

    I'm trying really hard not to say something insensitive, like "In other
    news, don't lick a metal pole in freezing temperatures..."

    But, I'm a nice guy who would never make fun of someone's troubles.
    Don't you hate it when that happens?

    :)
     
    otter, Jan 18, 2014
    #15
  16. Paul in Houston TX

    Giff Guest

    On 15.01.2014 02:02, Paul in Houston TX wrote:

    > Lens makes a crunching sound while zooming.


    yeah, I remember that from my old D600

    > Pictures end up like these:
    > http://zeezug.imgur.com


    this has luckily never (yet) happened :)

    Thanks,
    G
     
    Giff, Jan 18, 2014
    #16
  17. Paul in Houston TX

    Giff Guest

    On 14.01.2014 18:13, Scott Schuckert wrote:

    > If there's evidence that grit has gotten inside the
    > camera, I either (depending on the type and value of the camera) either
    > send the camera back to the manufacturer for professional cleaning, or
    > ignore it and hope for the best.


    Thanks for your opinions, Scott.

    G
     
    Giff, Jan 18, 2014
    #17
  18. otter wrote:
    > On 1/14/2014 12:36 AM, Paul in Houston TX wrote:
    >> Well, my nice little Panasonic ZS8 is no more.
    >> Took it apart to clean the dust out tonight and some of
    >> the wiring was sucked into the vacuum and destroyed.
    >> There is only one junk one on eBay and it looks really rough.
    >> The new version of ZS8 is substantially downgraded
    >> in what it can do compared to my 3 year old one.
    >> So, I Ordered a new ZS25 from B&H. It is supposed to
    >> be here (Houston) on Jan 17.
    >> Maybe it won't be as dust prone. But I doubt it.

    >
    > Sorry, but this cracks me up :).
    >
    > I'm trying really hard not to say something insensitive, like "In other
    > news, don't lick a metal pole in freezing temperatures..."
    >
    > But, I'm a nice guy who would never make fun of someone's troubles.
    > Don't you hate it when that happens?
    >
    > :)


    Yah, It was a lighthearted post.
    The ZS8 was a good little cam. Sad to see it go.
    If I had more time I would have gotten a couple of junk
    ones from EBay and made one good one.
    I may still do that and keep it as a spare.
    I have my new ZS25 now. Hope it will last a year.
    IMO, it's not as good as my old ZS8.
     
    Paul in Houston TX, Jan 18, 2014
    #18
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