Durst B30 or F30?

Discussion in 'Darkroom Developing and Printing' started by Bendzh, Jul 20, 2005.

  1. Bendzh

    Bendzh Guest

    Hi everybody, I'm just setting up for black and white printing and have
    the option of either buying a Durst B30 enlarger with "50mm Durst
    Neotar f/3.5 lens" or a Durst F30 with a "4.5 MINOLTA ROKKOR ENLARGING
    LENS". I'm having difficulty finding much info on either of these
    products and little clue as to which is the superior. Thanks in advance!
     
    Bendzh, Jul 20, 2005
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  2. As far as I know, these enlargers haven`t been made for many years, the
    Minolta lens you mentioned is quite a good lens, but again as far as I know,
    no longer made.
    Of the two, I would probably go for the second enlarger with the Minolta
    lens, then if you upgrade to a better enlarger, you have a decent lens to
    keep.
    I wouldn`t pay much for either of them, though they`re OK to get started in
    B&W printing.
     
    Keith Tapscott, Jul 20, 2005
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  3. Bendzh

    Mono Guest

    The B30 was designed for 35mm only, while the F60 can do either 35mm or
    6x6 roll film. On that basis, I would choose the F60. Recognize,
    however, that I am prejudiced because my first enlarger was an F60 which
    I used for over 20 years (and which I still have).

    When I bought my F60 in 1977, the dealer (the late, lamented Olden
    Camera in NYC) told me that Durst had obsoleted the design, and they
    were selling out the remaining stock. So the enlarger you are looking
    at is at least 28 years old. I believe, however, that the B30 is even
    older.

    I believe that the normal configuration for the F60 was with the
    condenser designed for 35mm. There was an alternate condenser that was
    required to do roll film, and that condenser would also handle 35mm. If
    the enlarger you are looking at doesn't have that condenser, it still is
    OK for 35mm, and if you are lucky, you can find the larger condenser at
    a flea market or a dealer like Midwest Photo.
     
    Mono, Jul 21, 2005
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  4. Bendzh

    Frank Guest

    "the late, lamented Olden Camera in NYC"

    They are still there, believe it or not. Don't know how they do it
    though?
     
    Frank, Jul 21, 2005
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  5. Bendzh

    John Guest

    I believe the B30 was the predecessor to the M301/305. They are quite
    good. I have two of the M305's and do all of my 35mm enlarging on them.

    Regarding the lenses, I believe the Neotar to be a 4 element lens and
    as such I probably wouldn't bother with it. The Neonon's were the 6
    element lenses from Durst. The same for the Minolta lens. There are some
    great bargains out there on Neonon's and other six element with the
    great digital migration.
     
    John, Jul 24, 2005
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