DVD Authoring - comparison of Programs

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Tommy C., May 10, 2006.

  1. Tommy C.

    Tommy C. Guest

    The ones I have tried are listed below - very frustrating !!! Because
    I want to make DVD's with numerous short video clips, which mean one
    Top menu and several 2nd-level menus with 15 to 20 rectangles. Each
    rectable is a "button" that will launch the video clip and then return
    when finished playing. Sounds simple . . .

    Sonic "MyDVD 8 Premiere" - max of 6 buttons per menu. What a dumb
    limitation - and this is their "Preniere" version

    TMPGenc DVD Author 1.5 or 2 - limit of One Menu !!!!! That's
    right, you can only make one top-level menu and then a series of
    "Tracks" pages. The Tracks pages can only be used to play video from
    - they cannot move you to other pages - just back to the top. Well,
    OK thsat is what I need - but the problem is - they only will list
    multiple chapter points from a single clip. When I add multiple clips
    onto one track in the Source settings - the menus will only show ONE
    track. This was with the 2.0 Trial version so maybe the pay version
    fixes that - but why would they limit that in the Trial? The
    limitations do not list that. I have had a lot of frustration with
    these menus. Better luck with v1.5 But overall, the interfac e is
    very limiting and not at all customizable. Plus, it continually does
    weird things such as show 4 clhapter points, even though I added 5.

    DVD Workshop 1.3 - blew a wad on this, and NEVER, EVER could get
    sound. I read the boards and found that many people have had the same
    problem. Msteriously some did not have the problem. Worked with
    their techs for weeks and applied every update they had, but never
    solved the problem.

    DVD Workshop 2 - this is the ONLY app that would do it for me. Make
    this simple DVD structure with one Top menu and several 2nd-level
    menus with a lot of buttons on each sub-level menu. BUT it would not
    work at all on two of my machines - even my new 2.4 GHz Pentium 4.
    Had audio but it was messed up and not synched. But it does work on
    my daughter's P III, 350 MHz machine. Slow as heck, but at least it
    Tommy C., May 10, 2006
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  2. Tommy C.

    Smarty Guest


    DVD-Lab at http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/ is relatively inexpensive
    ($99) and allows total control over menu and button design. The programs you
    have already tried are intended to be used by people looking for a quick and
    easy result, while your needs are more demanding. I think you will find that
    DVD-Lab will satisfy your needs entirely.

    Smarty, May 10, 2006
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  4. Tommy C.

    Ken Maltby Guest

    None of what you are saying is true. Or is only true if you don't
    use the program correctly.
    If you just want a program that works the way you seem to expect
    an authoring program should, ( The way that Alpha, also thinks it
    should work). You may want to follow his advice and try Ulead's
    Movie Factory 4.

    If you would take the time to gain some little understanding of how
    the DVD Standards work and how TDA implements them, you
    could do as much as you want that the Standards allow.

    TDA uses the term "Track" for what the DVD Standard describes
    as VTS (Video Title Set) or Title.

    The DVD Standard requires that Titles/VTS be accessed from one
    Main menu. The Titles/VTS can themselves have a menu to navigate
    within that title only. The Parts of a Title are Chapters and play one
    after the other till the end of a title. This is why when you added
    clips to a track they became chapters.

    If you want them to be Titles of their own, you need to make them
    tracks. Just click on the blue "Add new track..." text. Each track
    will be an item on the Main menu. You can have up to 99 tracks.
    TDA lets you have the Main menu only, no track/chapter menus,
    and that is often the most practical approach.

    A menu, including the Main menu, can have more than one page.
    The number of Items on a menu page is determined by the
    "layout" selected for that menu. If you selected a Main menu
    layout that had 4 items, and you added 5 tracks, you would have
    two menu pages the first with 4 tracks and the second with one.

    On each page of the menu there would be controls to navigate
    the menu pages(page forward/page back) Your DVD player's
    remote would also be able to navigate the menu with its buttons.

    The DVD Standard lets you have up to 35 selection items per
    menu page. TDA has layouts with up to 24 items per page, text or
    thumbnails. Of course the more items on a page the smaller they
    will have to be, so you could have your 15 or 20 thumbnail pages,
    but you might not find them too workable.

    Ken Maltby, May 10, 2006
  5. Tommy C.

    JimK Guest

    I see no problem with TMPGenc DVD Author 1.5 doing the above, can you
    give a better description of or a flow diagram of what you want to
    JimK, May 10, 2006
  6. Tommy C.

    RS Guest

    Also of note is that DVD-Lab is just intended as a program for creating
    DVD's and menus. It won't do any transcodings for you. Its intended that
    you have already created the DVD compatible files. It also actually
    prefers seperate video and audio streams instead of just supporting them.
    RS, May 10, 2006
  7. Tommy C.

    HerHusband Guest

    The ones I have tried are listed below - very frustrating !!! Because
    I started with MyDVD. Terrible program, never could get it to produce
    working DVD's.

    Switched to DVD-Lab and enjoyed using it for a while. But it always
    insisted on transcoding files (even when they were the correct format), and
    would randomly crash just before the disc was done.

    I now use Nero-Vision, part of the normal Nero package. Something I had
    installed all along, but didn't even realize it. It isn't as flexible as
    DVD-Lab, but I can produce a working DVD much faster and easier. You can
    create menu's with up to 12 "buttons", and can join multiple small video's
    into a single video with chapters, if you wish. For my basic needs, I've
    been real happy with it, and it seems to accept about any video format
    without complaining.

    HerHusband, May 10, 2006
  8. "Tommy C." wrote ...
    I also went through several of those without ever writing a single
    good disc. I finally switched to Adobe Encore and never looked
    back. Not a single failure since I started using Encore.

    My only "complaint" with Encore is figuring out how to make
    simple buttons. Haven't yet found a basic tutorial on what all
    those layers, etc. do.
    Richard Crowley, May 10, 2006
  9. Tommy C.

    sgordon Guest

    : Switched to DVD-Lab and enjoyed using it for a while. But it always
    : insisted on transcoding files (even when they were the correct format),
    : and would randomly crash just before the disc was done.

    Hmm, I've never had either of those problems.
    And, since I discovered turing off "auto-route", all of my DVD menus
    have been flawless (and some of them have been rather complex).
    sgordon, May 10, 2006
  10. Tommy C.

    Ken Maltby Guest

    I think you mixed those two up, it's Nero Vision that tries to reencode
    everything using its own codec; DVD Lab has no encoding function and
    requires DVD compliant MPEG.

    DVD-Lab Pro would be the best option for the OP, but if he can't
    work TDA properly, I don't expect he'll have any luck with it.

    Ken Maltby, May 10, 2006
  11. Tommy C.

    HerHusband Guest

    I think you mixed those two up, it's Nero Vision that tries to reencode
    It has been a couple of years since I used DVD Lab, so it may not have been
    a "transcoding" issue. But, there was some kind of "processing" it always
    did that took a long time to create the DVD's. I didn't really mind other
    than the random crashing issues during the last few minutes of compiling
    the DVD. It just crashed out of the program with no indication as to why it
    had happened.

    I find Nero Vision to be faster and more stable than DVD Lab was, but it
    does have far less flexibility than DVD lab.

    HerHusband, May 11, 2006
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    Alpha Guest

    <EG> It's Movie Factory 5 now...with some excellent speed increases and
    compatability upgrades.
    Alpha, May 12, 2006
  13. I am a new Encore user, and it seems I read in the manual that you can
    take any object and convert to button with a single click.

    Terrific program. Still learning it.

    Gary Eickmeier
    Gary Eickmeier, May 14, 2006
  14. Right, but the DVD standard does some pretty cool things with
    different "layers" for "mouse over" or "selected" or "acitivated"
    states (or whatever they are called in DVD land).
    Richard Crowley, May 14, 2006
  15. Well, it's all in the manual. You do it in Photoshop. The real thing or
    Elements. The easiest way is to import a real button into Photoshop and
    then just substitute. It will have all the right labels etc.

    Gary Eickmeier
    Gary Eickmeier, May 15, 2006
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    willpops Guest

    willpops, May 15, 2006
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