DVD capacity question

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by rovereab, May 30, 2004.

  1. rovereab

    Tony Morgan Guest

    We wait with bated breath.... :)
    In essence you can. That's what Risk Analysis and Risk Assessment [1] is
    all about (I note you use the word "risk" below).
    Those six words sum up the fundamental flaws about your views and the
    way in which you arrive at them. The best in who's view(s)? You choose
    to ignore the many questions posed by your philosophy of "what's new
    must be better than that which is old and proven".
    Basing your policies on that will mean that you'd be doing nothing.
    Some of the things you have addressed here suggest that you are employed
    in an IT related job so, if so, it might be worth while persuading your
    employer to invest in some BS7799 training. Or even trying to raise the
    funding yourself [2].

    OK, I know that here we're fundamentally addressing the issues facing
    the home PC user, or at best someone running a SOHO setup. But ignoring
    the policies and procedures adopted almost universally by the
    "professionals" (including those in data-critical environments) seems at
    the very least to be inadvisable, at worst downright stupid.

    There's been several links given here to the qualified views of those
    who can be considered experts in the field of data protection. But you
    seem to be ignoring them based on your philosophy of "what's new must be
    better than what is old and proven".

    And the very fact that you are pressing the strategy of relying on
    optical disks suggests to me that you haven't done any VCD. SVCD or DVD
    burning whatsoever - since had you so done you would have been very
    conscious of the incidence of burning coasters.

    [1] The two first steps in "Information Security" as addressed by
    BS7799.
    [2] The going rate for BS7799 consultants can get anything between
    £500 and £1000 per day (or part-day).

    If someone has *absolutely* no other option than to rely on optical
    media for their archiving and backups - then the questions (and
    conclusions) here have no relevance - since will be no choice anyway.
    But if there is a choice, than to adopt your philosophy of "what's new
    is better than what's old and proven" seems to lack any sort of sense.

    In the case of video archiving, then since there is a choice, ISTM it's
    best to use the strategy/method that doesn't require standing over (3
    DVDs = 1 tape = 1 hour). In the case of PC archiving, based on the
    availability of DVD (and the lack of funding to buy a DAT drive) then
    obviously there's again no choice, and the user is forced to rely on DVD
    and to live with the very real possibility of having coasters to restore
    from in the event of disaster recovery.
     
    Tony Morgan, Jun 6, 2004
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  2. rovereab

    Jerry. Guest

    It is EXACTLY because it is 'archaic' that it has proved to be a reliable
    archive medium. Sorry but all I see in your messages is an "It's old so must
    be naff" attitude.
     
    Jerry., Jun 6, 2004
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  3. rovereab

    John Russell Guest

    I always thought the registry was on C, even if you installed on D or E or
    whatever. So I consider C to be my essential OS partiton and hence the
    registry is always backed up. As a home PC my PC has quite a few games
    installed (not on C) and I'm not about to waste time backing those up when
    they can be reinstalled.

    With large disks and huge apps modern PC users have to consider compromise.
    You can if you wish install everything on C, get a huge tape drive and take
    hours to backup everything. Or you can create a data management policy,
    perform selective backups and rely on reinstalling none essentail
    applications, which I might add often have "intelligent" installers which
    pick up on the presence of previous registry settings and use them.
     
    John Russell, Jun 6, 2004
  4. rovereab

    John Russell Guest

    And the very fact that you are pressing the strategy of relying on
    Like all technologies cd/dVd recorders had problems at first which have been
    addressed. Modern drives are quite capable of handling the burning program
    being paused, providing the user keeps his burning software up to date to
    match the hardware. I personnaly always select "verify" so it you find out
    if you have a coaster as soon as it's burned, something which rarely happens
    now!

    I think it's human nature to think that every new technology will be better
    than the previous "on day one". Expereince tells me that is rarely the case
    with companies keen to generate revenue before their new technology is as
    realiable as the old. That's progress for you!

    Despite it's problems the recordable optical disk is going to be the only
    medium avialable to home users for making back-ups in the foreseeable
    future. The PC has always been about "value" computing, and not performance
    at any price.
     
    John Russell, Jun 6, 2004
  5. rovereab

    Tony Morgan Guest

    I suspect that you're missing the significance of what you said John. If
    you exclude the "non-essential" software from your backup, the registry
    entries for that non-essential software are backed up - and on a restore
    (without all the non-essential software) you can have problems.
     
    Tony Morgan, Jun 6, 2004
  6. rovereab

    John Russell Guest

    Well you can always get something Norton System Utilties to tidy up orphan
    entries. I've had to resort to using that when bad uninstallers have not
    cleared up the registry and caused problems. That's one reason I don't
    completely trust uninstallers!
     
    John Russell, Jun 6, 2004
  7. rovereab

    Jerry. Guest

    And should we take your continual baiting as proof that you are
    trolling.....
     
    Jerry., Jun 17, 2004
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