DVD Labels

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Mary, Sep 30, 2005.

  1. Mary

    Mary Guest

    Good Evening,

    What label method do you use for your DVD's? I've been using the stick
    on ones, but located an Epson printer that will print on printable
    media. While looking for the media, I came across a device that will
    burn the label on. Just wondering what works for you.

    Thanks,
    Mary
     
    Mary, Sep 30, 2005
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  2. Mary,

    Do not use stick on labels on DVD. There is a high risk that the label will
    come loose or cause unbalance that might damage the recorder. It is OK for a
    CD but never for a DVD. Instead use an inkjet printer to print on white
    surface DVDs. There are other methods as well but think the inkjet way is
    the cheapest for small quantities.

    Peter
     
    Peter O Sjostrand, Sep 30, 2005
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  3. Mary

    xramx Guest

    I use the Casio cw-75. It produces nice clean simple labels on regular
    DVDs. Kinda of expensive ($80 or so) unless you do lots of disks.
    Luckily I got it as a gift & it's a luxury I really like.
     
    xramx, Sep 30, 2005
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  4. I found mine to be rather spotty unless printing on absolutely
    mirror-finish disc surfaces. The "matte finish" that most discs
    have produces relatively poor results.
     
    Richard Crowley, Sep 30, 2005
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  5. Mary

    RS Guest

    That little epson will do a decent job. Good little consumer entry level
    unit for under $100.
     
    RS, Sep 30, 2005
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  6. Mary

    rtr Guest

    And for discs I use TY Silver top printables. In my opinion a little better
    appearance than flat white topped.

    rtr
     
    rtr, Sep 30, 2005
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  7. Mary

    RS Guest

    Is there much of a price bump to get those disks?
     
    RS, Sep 30, 2005
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  8. You can get an Epson R200 printer for well under $100.
    They often have refurbs on Epson's website. Last one I saw
    there was $77 with free shipping.

    Set of new ink carts is ~$50 at Costco, but I bought a
    continuous ink supply retrofit kit on eBay which makes it
    very economical to print full color across the disc (and make
    very nice looking Amray case liners also).
    I avoid stick-on labels on DVDs. To much to go wrong.
    Now that I have my Epson printer, I use printable discs for
    CDRs also. So much easier and more professional looking
    than stick-on labels.
    Limited supply (=higher prices), and monochrome make it
    look not particularly attractive. And remember that you must
    have a drive that supports that function too (=higher cost and
    limited selection)

    I buy exclusively Taiyo-Yuden DVD+R inkjet-printable discs.
    I am very happy with them. Excelent quality and reputation, etc.

    Good prices at supermediastore.com and according to digitalFAQ,
    they have the best reputation for not selling "forgeries" (other
    brands labeled as T-Y, etc.

    http://www.supermediastore.com/
    http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
    http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/buyerguides/buymedia.htm
    http://www.rcrowley.com/VideoBKM.htm
     
    Richard Crowley, Sep 30, 2005
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  9. They are frequently less expensive than the white ones.
     
    Richard Crowley, Sep 30, 2005
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  10. Mary

    rtr Guest

    rtr, Oct 1, 2005
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  11. Mary

    Kent Ashton Guest

    Black Sharpie.
     
    Kent Ashton, Oct 1, 2005
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  12. Mary

    Mark Burns Guest

    I picked up an Epson Stylus Photo R200 at Sam's club for $80 about two
    months ago. It is great. Thanks to Ken Maltby for recommending on
    this group in the past. I am having more fun with it... I buy the
    Verbatum printable DVDs there as well.

    Very few recommend using stick on labels. Too many problem reports.
    DVDs spin at a much higher rate than CDs.

    Cheers...
     
    Mark Burns, Oct 1, 2005
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  13. Mary

    George Guest

    Have been using Neato labels for a few years now without problems. I
    make 5 to 10 DVDs per month for myself and friends... never been a
    problem. They're great too if you are in a hurry and don't have time for
    inkjet ink to dry.

    George
     
    George, Oct 1, 2005
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  14. Mary

    Mark Burns Guest

    There are many who report your experience. Just as many have reported
    bad experience with stick on labels. Many just with playback problems.
    Could be labels, could be something else. Counter intuitive to me.
    Faster that it spins, the more stable that it should be, to my
    thinking.

    But... I just believe it to be wise to fall on the conservative side
    here.

    There is virtually no dry time with my Epson. I print, stick in jewel
    case. Haven't smeared one yet. Much easier too, imho.

    If I were to use stick on labels, then I would only label a copy, not
    the master.

    Cheers...
     
    Mark Burns, Oct 1, 2005
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  15. Mary

    Ken Maltby Guest

    One little precaution to keep in mind, the ink only
    sticks to the "Printable" area of the disk. If you are
    pushing the limits of that area, it's possible to have
    some overspray land on a part where the ink will
    never stick or dry. This could be a problem as the
    printer ages, when switching disk make/models, or
    anything else that effects exact alignment.

    To avoid this remote problem I just wipe the
    non-printable areas, the rim and the inner circle,
    after I've printed a disk. The Epson's printing is
    so Photo like and uses so little ink that overspray
    is really unlikely, and the disks dry very quickly.

    Luck;
    Ken
     
    Ken Maltby, Oct 1, 2005
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  16. The discs I print are dry as they come out of the printer.
    I insert them directly into the box and have never had a
    problem with smearing etc. Epson R300 with standard
    dye-based ink.
     
    Richard Crowley, Oct 1, 2005
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  17. Mary

    AnthonyR Guest

    George,
    The few times I ever used a label on a cd or dvd, years later, I see the
    label wrinkles or peeling from humidity.
    So that's why i also went to using the epson r200 for direct disc printing,
    and love it.

    The ink dries the same speed as it would on a paper label, the inkjet
    printable dvd's are not smooth and shiny like regular dvd's but rather have
    an absorbent paper like label on the top of the disc permanently adhered at
    the factory so there is no chance of rippling from humidity or peeling off
    cause the glue got old or moist.

    Also if I really want resilant water proof and washable dvd's, I spray a
    light coat of clear enamel on top and then it takes a few hours to dry (if
    even that)
    and then the ink is washable with no water damage to the printing at all, so
    the dvd can be cleaned in the future like a commercial dvd can.

    I highly recommend the epsonR200 and R300 for direct to dvd printing. Sure
    dye sublimation and wax printing would be better, since they are water-proof
    right away but the price on those printers and supplies just hasn't reached
    consumer levels yet.
    There are places that will burn and print your dvd's with wax printers for
    as low as $5 a disc, minimum 3 dvd's, so that's an option, I seen one in a
    trade show offerring that service. Not a bad deal considering you get the
    dvd and printing cost plus their labor for only $5 each. :)

    AnthonyR.
     
    AnthonyR, Oct 1, 2005
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  18. Mary

    Ken Maltby Guest

    I used "Varathane" on a crossword puzzle that I epoxied to a
    TV tray, many years ago and it's still smooth and washable.
    That last might work if you could upload the DVD contents and
    the label artwork to their system somehow. Is the 3 disk minimum
    3 copies of the same DVD, or can you provide three ISO images
    and three label art files? For the archiving/collecting of TV series
    or most other situations that I can think of, you would want unique
    information on each disk.

    I use the free Gimp2 to resize, cleanup, title and composite
    graphic files ( Love their Smudge tool. ) for use with the CD
    Print program. Examples of some of my first:
    http://photos.yahoo.com/

    Luck;
    Ken
     
    Ken Maltby, Oct 1, 2005
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  19. Mary

    George Guest

    If your Epson works for you, thats great. The OP wanted to know what
    type labeling people are using on DVDs. I don't think it is accurate to
    say there are many problems reported with labels. I use a dye-sub
    printer, in wax mode with finish overcoat, to print my DVD labels and
    folks tell me they look like professional DVDs. And, of course, they
    will not fade. Never had a problem like those you mention. One of my
    friends had a problem with one not playing right that her kids used a
    lot; it was skipping. I cleaned the peanut butter off of it with some
    water and it played fine after that <grin>.

    George
     
    George, Oct 1, 2005
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  20. Mary

    AnthonyR Guest

    Ken,
    I believe it was 3 disc of the same art and sme content minimum and not sure
    about don't loading the data, but that would be nice.
    I like your labels, I noticed however you still aren't using the full face,
    hub free inkjet printable dvd's.
    Once i switched to them, I loved how much nicer the dvd looks with so much
    more room for titles and artwork that hated making dvd's
    on the few remaining non hub printable dvd's I had left.
    Nice work,
    AnthonyR.
     
    AnthonyR, Oct 2, 2005
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