editing video from 2 camera sources (premiere pro 1-5)

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Mad Scientist Jr, Jul 5, 2006.

  1. Like the guy below I'm new to Premiere Pro 1.5 and have two video clips
    of the same event taken from different angles. I figured out how to
    view the clips in dual monitor mode in Premiere (the help files are not
    that good), and drop markers on a distinguishing frame in each clip and
    line up the markers in the event timeline.

    Now I have a couple questions

    1) toward the end of the clips it seems they aren't synced, as if
    camera #1 was running a little faster than camera #2. How can I get
    Premiere to expand or squish (which is better?) one of the clips so
    they both are the same length?

    2) how can I transition from one camera source to the next? I have
    camera #1 in Video 3 of the timeline (audio is in Audio 3) and camera
    #2 in Video 2 of the timeline (audio in Audio 2), but when I try to
    play them back all I see is camera 1 (I am hearing the audio from both,
    which is how I can tell they're out of sync)

    Any help or reference to a good web tutorial or book would be greatly
    appreciated...


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    Hello All,

    I am new to video editing. And I need help.

    I have two video clips of the same event from two different angel, from
    two diffrent camera. Now I need to make a single video clip, from these
    two, taking different parts from different angel.

    So here what I am doing, first I put the clips in different track.
    Video track 1 and Video track 2. The audio went 1 and 2 resepectively.
    Now I want to synchronize them. Once done, I would cut parts from Video
    track 1, so that in these places Video track 2 can be visible. And so
    on...

    Is this the best way to do this? If so, how do I synchronize in Premier
    Pro and how do cut off parts from tracks.

    If not, please give some tips, so that I can start. If possible, please
    provide links Premier Pro tutorials.

    Thanks

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    A better way to do it is using the dual monitor within Premiere. Place
    one
    video on a track so it appears in the right monitor window. Find some
    distinct action or movement by the subject in the picture. Once you
    find a
    defining instance in the picture use the * key on the number pad to
    place a
    marker at that point. Drag the second video to the left monitor, find
    that
    same defining moment and then using single frame forward or backward
    (right
    arrow or left arrow) find the frame that matches the one in the right
    monitor. Place a marker on it and then line up the markers on the
    timeline.

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    Mad Scientist Jr, Jul 5, 2006
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    Marky A Guest

    You might consider upgrading to latest version of Premiere. It has a
    facility to handle up to 4 sources and easily switch between them after
    they are synced. I haven't use it yet, but it seems to be a large part
    of the enhancements in the upgrade.

    You (probably) only want to use one audio source at a time probably. Is
    all the sound wild (maybe wrong term, i mean from the camera mounted
    mics)? or do you have some other mics or monitors.

    To cut between the sources, cut holes in the higher track. Use the
    razor tool. If the sync drifts, nudge it a coupla frames at a cut.

    What's the nature of the event? Music? only with music should continous
    alignment be that important.

    If the sync is out afterwards, you may be able to fix it in an audio
    editor that gives sample level nudging capablility, not just frame
    level.

    Any holes in this post I'd be happy to hear about.

    Mark
     
    Marky A, Jul 6, 2006
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    RS Guest

    Set your sync point on the sound, not the visual

    You only see the TOP most track. You must think of it as if you are
    standing up, looking straight down your monitor. That is how most NLE
    systems work. What is on top, blocks out what is beneath. (There are a
    number of composite modes that can alter that, but crawl first, then
    walking later.)

    I believe there is a multi cam tool or plug in for Premiere Pro, but
    another way you can do it is to make a new track above the others, cut
    and pase sections of the video you want to cut away to, just the video
    part, not the audio track. In fact, you will want to mute out one of the
    audio tracks. Better yet, mute it and hide it.

    (Ah, I see the multicam tool is 2.0 and but that plug ins are avail for
    1.5. Probably expensive ones, so the cut and paste route is probably
    your best bet.)
     
    RS, Jul 6, 2006
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    Marky A Guest

    You can set the transparency of the top track to 50% so you can see
    both images at once, or just switch off the the upper track with the
    eyeball icon on the left of the track to view the bottom track.
     
    Marky A, Jul 6, 2006
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  5. You (probably) only want to use one audio source at a time probably. Is
    Yes, in the case of the music performance the two cams were the audio
    source (stage left and stage right, each in stereo). It seems that one
    cam picked up the vocals better and the other cam picked up the
    instruments better, so if possible I'd like to use the audio from both.
    The only problem is, after finding the exact start & end points from
    each camera (I was able to get it frame perfect) and changing the
    length of the shorter clip's length to be the same as the other
    camera's clip (keeping the pitch the same), the sound still sounds out
    of sync. I think this must be due to the physical placement of the
    camera's mics, which must have been different distances from the
    speakers. Is there some delay or other effect I can apply to one
    camera's audio to compensate, and get a good synced stereo image of the
    audio?

    ps Thanks everyone for your replies, I think for now the cut/paste
    method works but I will check out premiere pro 2 in the near future.
     
    Mad Scientist Jr, Jul 7, 2006
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