Effect Question: What plugin creates the posterized effect described below

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by jeb, May 28, 2005.

  1. jeb

    jeb Guest

    The effect that is used in I-Pod commercials, some DirecTV sports
    commercials, these have very limited number of colors.

    Also the new mac donalds salad commercial has a toon shaded
    effect that I would like to be able to render.

    Does anyone here know a way/ways to get this effect?
    Plugin / plugins ?

    I could make an animated mask for the I-pod type comercial, it would
    be time consuming to make. The direcTV commercial would be even harder
    with this method.

    I have tried the posterize effect ,but it does not give a crisp line.

    The commercials almost look like vector/flash graphics
     
    jeb, May 28, 2005
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  2. jeb

    Ken Maltby Guest

    When you find out how to do the effects in such commercials,
    using a plugin to readily available consumer software; you
    should let Apple and DirecTV know. Maybe they can save
    some money next time.

    LOL;
    Ken
     
    Ken Maltby, May 28, 2005
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  3. Not sure of a plug-in for that. I do know Ulead MediaStudio Pro 7 has a very
    similar effect built into the program, along with several variations of it.
    Similar effects could be created in an NLE program by placing a clip on the
    main video track and then adding a posterize filter to it. Then place the
    same clip on a video track above it with a pencil sketch filter on it. Use
    the transparency control of the upper video track and give it a 50%
    transparency.

    By tweaking the posterize filter you could come closer to the types of color
    you need, and by tweaking the pencil sketch filter get the thickness of the
    outlines needed. Since pencil sketch filter often have some spotting or
    noise inside the lines you could add an additional filter to control the
    brightness and contrast. With the added brightness/contrast filter you could
    turn the pencil sketch into a high contrast outline drawing type of look,
    which would in turn accent the posterized video file.
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  4. jeb

    jeb Guest

    Sounds good,

    It should render an interesting effect even if it is not exactly what
    I am looking for. Definatlly will try it!!!

    Thank you for taking time to explain it to me :)

    I think I will have to do vector art to get the effect I want.
    Trace the subject in vector art each frame using flash.

    I was also thinking I could use my green screen and perhaps my
    software has a key-inverse function,( have to look through my keying
    software)
    Or
    Render out the subject & green screen to a jpg sequence.
    Load the jpg's in to photoshop,magic wand select the green
    screen>select inverse>paint selection the soild color>flatten>save
    repeate for all jpgs.

    These edited jpgs could then be put over a background in
    premiere and key out the greenscreen.

    Much to do and try.

    Thanks for the feedback
     
    jeb, May 28, 2005
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  5. jeb

    jeb Guest

    What happen to you?
    I have read your other replies and they seem to be helpful,
    not this time though,,, such sarcasm.

    There are plug-ins that do things similar to the effect I was
    referring. The one that I know of is called toon shader.It is for 3d
    studio max though.
    I thought there may be something equivalent for straight video.
    It never hurts to ask if there is an easy way (plugin) , to achieve
    an effect.

    Thanks anyway
     
    jeb, May 28, 2005
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  6. jeb

    Ken Maltby Guest

    Fair enough, but the last two lines of your OP sure sounded
    like you were saying that you could make the effect using
    a plugin, but it didn't quite match the results of the commercial
    producers. If you got that far, wouldn't you normally work out
    how to sharpen the outlines using more of the same tools? I,
    perhaps erroneously, got the impression that you thought that
    process to be too much work, and were expecting to find a
    plugin that would do the whole thing for you.

    Still, if in the end, you find a simple, cheap way to do such
    effects, it does call into question the Millions of $ expended
    to produce those commercials.

    Luck;
    Ken
     
    Ken Maltby, May 28, 2005
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  7. jeb

    Seattle Eric Guest

    The two color iPod commercials are pretty simple green screen.

    More elaborate "Flash-esque" stuff is the result of a lot of labor, but
    for a professional animator, 30secX24frames is just not that long.

    Certainly less work than those "E-surance" Samurai-Jack style spots.
     
    Seattle Eric, May 28, 2005
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  8. I would first shoot them chromakey, then bring up the footage in Boris
    Effects and apply a filter in there called "tritone" . Tritone lets you
    apply three colors (or tones of one color, which looks way better) to
    your shot based on brightnes levels you set with an eyedropper color
    sampler tool or by plugging in numerical values or just pushing sliders
    around. This may need to be layered back over the basic keyed shot to
    some extent, i dunno. I think this can get you very close to the ipod
    look. If you study those apple spots closely, you will see it's not
    just a flat-shaded solid, but that there is still some detail and
    texture in the shots. I suspect the ipods and their cords have been
    painted in a separate chromakey shade from the background CC wall so
    they can be manipulated more easily.
     
    nobody special, May 29, 2005
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