Entry level plastic DSLRs can lose value faster than pro models

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by RichA, Apr 27, 2007.

  1. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Two things contribute to this; The fragility of the small components
    like battery and memory card doors (their mechanisms get sloppy and
    the doors break off) and the unprotected LCD screen. Same with the
    cheap switches they use in these cameras. Contacts wear, etc. My
    E-1 has a plastic LCD protector (as do all Nikons from the D80 up)
    that takes the brunt of any punishment, it is scuffed up now.
    Replacement is about $8.00. If the camera didn't have it (as most
    entry level DSLRs) it would be the LCD that would be scuffed up.
    Value drops by a fair margin if you try to sell it to upgrade.
    Meanwhile, I see old pro models from Nikon going for hundreds if not
    thousands of dollars because they (even with moderately rough usage)
    maintain their newish look and even if this is a somewhat irrational
    consideration when buying a used camera, it is still important to most
    people.
     
    RichA, Apr 27, 2007
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    dwight Guest

    One thing contributes to this: the low original retail, the markdowns within
    the first year of production, and the eventual release of a new model at no
    more than the price of the former when new.

    If I'd kept my Rebel XT in the box up on a shelf, never used, what would it
    have been worth by the time the XTi was released?

    dwight
    www.tfrog93.com
     
    dwight, Apr 27, 2007
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  3. RichA

    Guest Guest

    d70, actually.

    in any event, any office supply store sells plastic coverings for lcd
    screens for a few dollars. alternately, hoodman makes a fancy flip-up
    cover:

    i don't use any type of covering and there's no scuff on mine. perhaps
    you should not drag your camera along a gravel road.
     
    Guest, Apr 27, 2007
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  4. RichA

    =\(8\) Guest

    Few if anything computer related has much of a resale value. When the item
    you just paid $1000 for is replaced with an upgraded or better model 3
    months after you buy it your $1000 item is worth about $1.98. That isn't
    what's important. What's important is how well you use the item and how well
    you do getting your money's worth out if it before you replace it. That is
    all that counts. Buying something like this in the hopes of selling if a
    year later for a profit is dumb!

    =(8)
     
    =\(8\), Apr 27, 2007
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  5. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Another thing eroding their price, the rapid release of new low-end
    models.
    The Nikon D40x was released something like 4 months after the 40!
    Now, the 40 is cheaper, but it's likely the 40x will now take centre
    stage, and the value of the
    40 as a used camera will drop below $350 for the body, even thought
    the sellers are only selliing cameras a few months old.
     
    RichA, Apr 27, 2007
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  6. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Not a profit, but it is possible now to buy a camera, use it, keep it
    in good condition then sell it to upgrade and only lose what amounts
    to a cheap rental cost. A Nikon D200 or Canon 5D are good examples of
    such a machines, that hold their value.
     
    RichA, Apr 27, 2007
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    Pete D Guest

    Even if the entry level cameras wre metal bodied they would still loose the
    same value when the new models come out.
     
    Pete D, Apr 27, 2007
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    Tom Ross Guest

    Making up stuff again, Rich? I did a quick scan of the used prices for
    the 300D, the 20D and the 1D MkII, and it looks as if they have lost
    about 60% of their original value.
    That is, in so many words, what comes out the northern end of a
    south-bound male bovine critter. Keep spreading it around, Rich. It
    makes the grass grow.
    There are no scratchees on the LCD screen on my Digital Rebel. I'd
    like to say this is because the first thing I did after I opened the
    box was protect it with a screen protector sheet. But there aren't any
    scratches on the unprotected parts of the panel either.

    FWIW, the rest of the plastic body is in pretty good shape, too. There
    are scratches on the base plate from the QR bracket for my tripod. But
    the real wear has been on the grip - the matte finish is pretty much
    worn away.

    Sheer profundity!

    Oh, really? You can backorder a Nikon D2H from B&H for $3000 or pick
    up a D2H on Ebay for less than $1000 - nearly 70% of it's original
    value.


    Don't forget, Rich. The shiny side goes OUT.


    TR
     
    Tom Ross, Apr 27, 2007
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  9. RichA

    John Smith Guest


    If looks are that important than they deserve to pay premium price for well
    used gear.

    If the price of the "entry level" unit drops, so what? You've got your use
    outa it, and you can replace it with a newer model for a reasonable cost.

    DP
     
    John Smith, Apr 28, 2007
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    dwight Guest

    I would agree with this, never having sold any of my cameras. (I keep
    everything forever, something my wife frequently complains about.)

    My Mustang is now 14 years old with 206,000 miles on the clock. I think I
    got my money's worth for that, too.

    dwight
    www.tfrog93.com
     
    dwight, Apr 28, 2007
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    Bill Funk Guest

    But the buy-in cost is much higher.

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    Bill Funk, Apr 28, 2007
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    John Smith Guest

    Meaning Rosie O'Donnell can lose value faster than pro models?
     
    John Smith, Apr 28, 2007
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    Charlie Self Guest

    Probably, if she ever had any value. I loved the pictures of her and
    Trump: a Mr and Ms Ugly contest, both looking as if they lost their
    tempers years ago and never found them again.
     
    Charlie Self, Apr 28, 2007
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  14. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Yes, we all know they provide those protectors on all quality cameras
    because people repeatedly "drag them along gravel roads."
     
    RichA, Apr 28, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    Well, we can't say for sure because there are none. Meanwhile, 30Ds
    (the "entry level" of metal cameras) holds it's value nicely when it
    comes to resales.
     
    RichA, Apr 28, 2007
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    Pete D Guest

    Idiot! 30D has not been superceded yet. What about prices of the 20D, still
    as high as new?
     
    Pete D, Apr 28, 2007
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  17. RichA

    RichA Guest

    I didn't say it had. I was pointing out that a higher quality camera
    holds its value better than entry level.
    The 20D if you can find one new is about $900 which compares favorably
    with the 30Ds current pricing.
    You have to factor-in what models are out now and how much they cost
    in relation to the model you are looking at as a used camera. The 20D
    was probably $1500 for the body when it was released but the improved
    30D is only $1200 or so, so the 20D has held it's value pretty well
    given new pricing for that level of camera.
     
    RichA, Apr 29, 2007
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    rboy505 Guest

    Since when have any category of cameras been investments? These
    cameras in particular are bought to be used. No one gives a $#@%
    about their resale value. Plenty just get held on to or passed
    on.


    They all hold their value much better than recording equipment and
    keyboards.
    And similarly no one buys a plastic $500 keyboard assuming it'll hold
    its value. In fact, when a professional keyboard player buys a
    $3,000 synth they're usually lucky, with rare exceptions, to get $500
    for it in a decade.


    Time marches on and waits for no one.
     
    rboy505, Apr 29, 2007
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  19. RichA

    RichA Guest

    If you didn't see thousands of used cameras on Ebay, you might have a
    point.
    But you don't.
     
    RichA, Apr 29, 2007
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  20. RichA

    rboy505 Guest


    My obvious point is that people care about the resale value only when
    it's time to sell, not with a great concern with how what they're
    about to buy fits into the grand scheme of the resale market. The
    used camera market simply is what it is. It rarely affects what new
    equipment they buy, especially the new market, as you imply.

    eBay is filled will people selling their used cameras and getting
    money and eBay stores selling used gear, but not speculators flipping
    photo equipment.

    Your "point" that low end anythings don't hold their value is hardly a
    startling news flash.
     
    rboy505, Apr 29, 2007
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