EOS 20D Firmware version 1.0.4 is available

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Bart van der Wolf, Oct 4, 2004.

  1. Bart van der Wolf, Oct 4, 2004
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  2. Bart van der Wolf

    Phil Wheeler Guest

    Why do you say that?

    To be sure, it has not worked for maybe 5% of 20Ds (based on dpreview
    posts). Either:

    o The specific camera needed to be sent to Canon service anyway; or
    o The owner did not do the upgrade *exactly* right.

    I did the upgrade. Took 10 minutes total. Works.

    Phil Wheeler, Oct 5, 2004
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  3. SNIP
    Are you referring to the very few cases that failed, versus the huge
    majority that was successfully upgraded? Do note that one of the
    issues it's supposed to fix, is occasional communication problems with
    some CF cards. In those cases there is a risk involved of needing to
    send the camera in for a free? fix, or a swap at your dealer (if he
    has any units available). So the worst that can happen is that you'll
    be out of a camera for a while, unfortunate, but not the end of the

    I'd say if your (reputable brand) CF card hasn't given you any
    problems so far, and you want to solve a potential lock-up now and
    then, it's pretty safe to do.

    Bart van der Wolf, Oct 5, 2004
  4. Bart van der Wolf

    Ryadia Guest

    The basic concept that you only need to read the instructions when
    something goes wrong, is generally the reason something goes wrong.
    Ryadia, Oct 5, 2004
  5. Of those that upgraded, yes.
    I'd recon that most active ones are aware about the anticipated
    firmware update, or they will be when they experience a lock-up. There
    are also quite a few that have reported to postpone their puchase
    until the update was issued. I'll bet they checked all sources for
    No, read again; ""... the huge majority that was successfully
    upgraded", not the huge majority of all owners. I'll rephrase: Of all
    the people that have applied the firmware upgrade, and posted about
    their experience, the huge majority reported a successful completion
    of the procedure.
    Why? You may be underestimating the psychology of human behavior, read
    Active retailers keep themselves informed (like you do), and active
    users read newsgroups. In marketing it is also a well known phenomenon
    that recent purchasers of high value equipment are amongst the most
    active readers of information concerning their purchase. It has to do
    with the psychological need for reconfirmation of their choice. They
    are amongst the most attentive readers of advertizing about their e.g.
    camera. Good marketing recognizes that, and also targets recent
    purchasers (e.g. by issuing testimonials from opinion leaders). End of
    free consult.

    Bart van der Wolf, Oct 5, 2004
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    Larry Guest

    I think that the situation is probably more like 50/50...

    Remember how absolutely stupid the average person is, and then remember that
    half of everybody is dumber than that.

    Mostly (with a few exceptions) a person that knows enough to be able to post
    to a usenet group is above average, simply by virtue of being able to find
    it. (most people dont even know what "usenet" is or that it exists)

    Then you have to think about this:

    If a guy downloads the upgrade and is happy with it, will he post it
    to usenet???? Probably not right away. He is more likely to be out using his
    camera.. (like I was this AM)

    The posts you are going to read here are from two camps.

    1. The guys that did it and it failed because of mistake/cf card
    trouble/using battery instead of power-supply/ or any of a thousand ways to
    un-intentionally screw it up.

    2. The guys that will use ANY opertunity to bash Canon.

    In case anyone wonders, I dont own a Canon simply because the kind of work
    I've been doing with my cameras is not condusive to the survival of a DSLR.
    However, in the spring I'll be doing dog & cat shows in addition to the
    indoor/outdoor equestrian events I have done in the past (working toward
    full-time photography) hell, I've even been asked to do some weddings by the
    people who have seen my work.

    You had better believe there will be a 20D in my arsenal before spring, it
    will survive a dog show, or a cat show just fine.. (not likely to have the
    air saturated with fine powdered horse-dung/sand-dust)

    Im just waiting to decide which lenses to buy to go with it, so I can budget
    accordingly. It will be my FIRST Canon Digital Camera. (My Sony 717, 828,
    V1, and my Fuji will continue to do horse shows for another year unless I
    break one of them)
    Larry, Oct 5, 2004
  7. Bart van der Wolf

    Big Bill Guest

    I understood Bart to say that, of those upgraded, the vast majority
    were successful.
    The clue, to me, was this:
    "Are you referring to the very few cases that failed, versus the huge
    majority that was successfully upgraded?"
    Note the "successfully upgraded" part. If they weren't upgraded, they
    couldn't have been "successfully upgraded", could they?

    Bill Funk
    Change "g" to "a"
    Big Bill, Oct 5, 2004
  8. Bart van der Wolf

    Phil Wheeler Guest

    Reference was to the dpreview forum and results posted there; but I
    assume you understand that and (as a retailer) know about the dpreview

    Phil Wheeler, Oct 5, 2004
  9. Bart van der Wolf

    Phil Wheeler Guest

    Wow! My dealer has been delivering the product to users for about three
    (maybe four) weeks. I got my 20D+ 17-85 kit (the last to arrive) 11
    days ago at my local dealer.

    Where are you that you are so late in getting product?

    Phil Wheeler, Oct 5, 2004
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