EOS-6D - 20 Mpix FF [ WiFi, GPS ]

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Alan Browne, Sep 18, 2012.

  1. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    from http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-6d/

    One of the key themes of Photokina 2012 is shaping up be the resurgence
    of the full frame format, with the launch of a raft of cameras featuring
    24x36mm sensors. First up was Sony, with its SLR-like Alpha SLT-A99 and
    Cyber-Shot RX1 fixed-lens compact. Now, just four days after arch-rival
    Nikon announced what it billed as the 'smallest and lightest full frame
    DSLR' in the shape of the D600, Canon has revealed its own contender -
    the EOS 6D.

    The EOS 6D is best seen as a full frame version of the EOS 60D - indeed
    it's very similar in both control layout and dimensions. Its front
    profile is very similar to the Nikon D600, but it's rather slimmer
    front-to-back, and lighter too. However it differs from the Nikon in a
    number of key respects; for example it has Wi-Fi and GPS built-in, while
    the D600 offers a distinctly higher spec'ed autofocus system, dual card
    slots and a built-in flash.

    Canon EOS 6D key specifications

    20.2MP full frame CMOS sensor
    DIGIC 5+ image processor
    ISO 100-25600 standard, 50-102800 expanded
    4.5 fps continuous shooting
    'Silent' shutter mode
    1080p30 video recording, stereo sound via external mic
    11 point AF system, center point cross-type and sensitive to -3 EV
    63 zone iFCL metering system
    97% viewfinder coverage; interchangeable screens (including Eg-D grid
    and Eg-S fine-focus)
    1040k dot 3:2 3" ClearView LCD (fixed)
    Single SD card slot
    Built-in Wi-Fi and GPS
    Single-axis electronic level
    Alan Browne, Sep 18, 2012
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  2. Alan Browne

    Noons Guest

    Alan Browne wrote,on my timestamp of 18/09/2012 12:03 PM: If it is in dpreview, why are you re-posting it here?
    Isn't that plagiarism?
    Never mind:
    we all know you are a Canon plant in the newsgroups...
    Noons, Sep 18, 2012
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  3. Alan Browne

    tony cooper Guest

    Noons wonders why he always gets caught when he plagiarizes his middle
    school term papers...he includes a link to his source.
    tony cooper, Sep 18, 2012
  4. Alan Browne

    Noons Guest

    tony cooper wrote,on my timestamp of 18/09/2012 1:50 PM:

    Can you for once make sense? Try using English as the language, dickhead...
    Noons, Sep 18, 2012
  5. Alan Browne

    otter Guest

    My take is that with the 6D Canon isn't looking to compete with the
    D600, as much as it is to create a low cost FF camera but crippled
    enough that it didn't threaten the 5D3. I think if they price it low
    enough, they will be able to sell some of them. Not a very compelling
    camera for enthusiasts, but they can probably move a bunch at Costco.
    otter, Sep 18, 2012
  6. This sounds like how Canon treat customers at the Powershot end of the
    range. Welcome to the club.
    Charles E. Hardwidge, Sep 18, 2012
  7. Alan Browne

    Noons Guest

    Charles E. Hardwidge wrote,on my timestamp of 18/09/2012 6:06 PM:
    No thanks, that's one club I'll NEVER be in!
    Noons, Sep 18, 2012
  8. Exactly what does the D600 have over the 6D so that people would
    change to Nikon? "It's body is 10 gramms less (without battery)
    compared to the 6D (with battery)?" "It's larger than the 6D?"

    Yes, it's probably a good camera, and surely has interesting
    features ... but so is and has the 6D, which steals all the
    thunder of the "smallest (and lightest) fullframe camera" claim.
    And probably it'll not be the cheapest either ...
    The 6D may be the new 5D (Mark I).

    Anyway, why *should* Canon build a camera that threatens the
    5D3, but won't be interesting to those masses who don't want an
    almost-5D3 at almost-5D3 prices?
    Based on the fact that enthusiasts already have the 7D and will
    all buy the 5D3 at least?

    Well, the original 5D wasn't a very compelling camera for
    enthusiasts either ... by your standards.

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 18, 2012
  9. Alan Browne

    otter Guest

    There is no law that says anyone is required to buy one, and I'm not
    going to. If I had some EF lenses and was looking for a cheap Canon
    full frame camera, I might consider it, though. Or I might buy a
    Nikon D600 or D800.

    Or I might blow a lot of money on a different camera that I want more
    than I need.
    otter, Sep 19, 2012
  10. Alan Browne

    Rich Guest

    A boring poor man's 5DIII
    Rich, Sep 19, 2012
  11. Alan Browne

    Noons Guest

    otter wrote,on my timestamp of 19/09/2012 9:06 AM:

    Dang, that Sony A99 is looking sooooo good!...
    Noons, Sep 19, 2012
  12. Alan Browne

    Noons Guest

    Er.... Lessee: the D400 is here and available now, the 6D isn't and
    won't be until December. Is that enough reality already?

    Given the 6D is not yet available from anywhere, that would be a good

    Noons, Sep 21, 2012
  13. Alan Browne

    PeterN Guest

    What store has the D400 for immediate delivery.
    Have you seen the official announcement?
    Link please
    PeterN, Sep 21, 2012
  14. The D400 isn't available. Not even for pre-order.
    There isn't any official announcement of the D400.
    Rumors put the D400 as a crop camera, while the 6D is a full
    frame camera.

    And yet is was billed as lightest, smallest, cheapest ...

    But it was a complete success ...
    Maybe your standards are not exactly relevant ...

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 22, 2012
  15. Alan Browne

    Noons Guest

    Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote,on my timestamp of 22/09/2012 8:19 PM:

    Obviously, I meant the D600. Which as I said: is here and available now.
    While the 6D is vaporware and will be for a long while.

    and yet it's not available from anywhere for confirmation...

    or maybe the 5d is not exactly relevant to me and was never a complete success...
    Noons, Sep 23, 2012
  16. Naah, that's not so very obvious --- I don't follow Nikon cameras
    closely. You could well have meant some other camera.
    For decades at least! Probably centuries!
    You could have had your confirmation at Photokina, others
    managed, if you didn't it was your fault:
    Yep, back then Nikon was all "DX forever", so it wasn't relevant
    for you ...
    You not buying a camera does not make the camera "never a complete

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 23, 2012
  17. Alan Browne

    Noons Guest

    Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote,on my timestamp of 24/09/2012 6:57 AM:
    Hey, what can I say: you only follow a minor maker?...
    And yet, amazingly, I go to B&H and this:


    has the magic words "In Stock" attached to it.

    While this:


    says "Available for pre-order"
    which I'm sure is Canon-speak for "available real soon now"?...
    Back then I did not use Nikon dslrs, so that one is missed.
    Together with me, a lot of others...
    Noons, Sep 24, 2012
  18. You can say that I *don't* follow minor makers.

    If you can go to B&H, you can go to Photokina.
    So if you need a camera right now, you might sell all your lenses
    and start anew with the D600. Yep, sounds ideal.

    Whereas, if you are less impulsive, you know which cameras will
    be available from Canon soon, so you can plan to buy the right
    one and not be surprised tomorrow with a better matching camera.
    It's B&H-speak.
    Ask THEM what that means.

    So which DSLRs did you use?
    Did you use any DSLR?
    Or ... maybe ... did you just follow some minor P&S maker?

    .... will never buy a single Nikon DSLR. So Nikon's DSLRs
    never were and never will be a complete success.

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 24, 2012
  19. Alan Browne

    Noons Guest

    Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote,on my timestamp of 25/09/2012 2:36 AM:
    Pity, your loss. Size of maker means nothing and has never meant anything.

    Why go to a once in a blue moon site when I can go to a permanently open dealer?
    Recall that bit about "minor"?

    Why on Earth would I ever do that? Most of my lenses are either Nikon or Zeiss
    ZF. With a few Voigtlander and Leica thrown in for good measure. As well as Mamiya.

    Sure. Just like in real soon now...

    Narh, I don't have to. It's perfectly clear.
    It means: "Canon was caught with their pants down".

    No. I used 35mm film. And still do.
    As well as dslrs (now) and m4/3 as well.
    Ah yes: and medium format film.

    ....just like Canon's.
    Noons, Sep 25, 2012
  20. Except things like much higher chances of survival of the mount,
    a larger, often much larger camera portfolio, a large or huge lens
    collection *with* all the amenities like fast AF and nowadays IS
    (which minor makers only get when they adopt an old mount without
    such amenities), a borad user base for buying and selling used
    gear, easier access to repair shops, ... shall I go on? Or will
    you next say that being sighted or not does mean nothing either?
    B&H does observe holidays, and not always when you would expect
    them to. "permanently open" is what the police or the fire
    brigade is.
    Yes, what about it? Doesn't B&H carry minor makers?

    I see --- everyone is just like you and has only Nikon and Zeiss
    lenses ... and a few Voigtlander and Leica and Mamiya ones.

    Last I heard, less than 3 months.
    Yep, for maybe 3 months. How long did it take for Nikon to
    find out that people actually wanted FF after the 5D arrived?

    Ah, so you're a newcomer to the field. Welcome, enjoy your stay.
    35mm film: Something only minor makers carter for any more.
    And something very often used in P&S cameras back then.
    Welcome, newbie.
    What, no large format? No 8×11 mm film either?
    So your 'never a complete success' was just a misunderstanding on
    my part --- I should have gotten that you're writing in bad faith.

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 25, 2012
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