Epson 2200 with Kodak paper

Discussion in 'Kodak' started by Marc Walch, Dec 5, 2003.

  1. Marc Walch

    Marc Walch Guest

    I am having considerable problems using Kodak Paper (Premium Picture
    Paper) with an Epson 2200 printer.

    What happens is this: after the paper get imprinted, it slowly exits the
    printer via "exit rollers". Unfortunately, the ink is not quite dry
    enough and the rollers leave unacceptable marks on the print.

    This does not happen with Epson paper (which I am buying and using
    anyway). However, I have a box of Kodak paper that was part of the deal
    when I bought the printer; I'd like to use it if possible.

    I have contacted Kodak and their answer was to use their Easyshare
    software with a driver for the Epson 2200. I did this and the result is
    just as desastrous!

    Any ideas out there?

    Thanks

    Marc
     
    Marc Walch, Dec 5, 2003
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    Warren Guest

    You might try buying a set of roller lifters designed for the 2200,
    they are intended to address these "slow-drying" problems when
    printing on non-Epson papers. Other problems, too--such as reverse
    curl are probably fixed with this. Just do a search on eBay under
    "Epson 2200" and you will (hopefully) find this guy's ad. I bought a
    set a couple weeks ago, they are under $20.

    Of course printing on relatively non-absorbant papers or those that
    are over-sized in some manner could lead to reticulation effects, but
    this is not always such a bad thing, depending on what you're trying
    to achieve. I've printed some very interesting B&W pictures on
    plastic-based HP "paper" that requires about two days to settle down.
     
    Warren, Dec 5, 2003
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    Tom Monego Guest

    Right paper for the right printer. The Epson 2200 is a pigmented ink printer,
    Kodak Premium Photo works best with dye inks. I use a long lasting dye ink
    with it and have excellent results, but I'm sure it could be a pain with the
    Ultrachrome inks. I'd use one of the Epson or Ilford glossy papers made for
    pigments, If you are locked into Kodak try the UltraPhoto.


    Tom
     
    Tom Monego, Dec 5, 2003
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    Ron Baird Guest

    Hi Bill,

    Sorry to hear about the trouble you are having in printing with EasyShare.

    One of the featuresthat is included with Kodaks EasyShare software, is One
    Touch. This feature is the result of a lot of work on the part of Kodak to
    make sure that most of the printers that are on the market today give good
    results with Kodak paper. This means that if you install Kodak EasyShare
    Software and choose the Print At Home tab in the software with the Epson
    2200 selected at the printer, and you choose Kodak Premium Picture Paper as
    the choice choice of paper from the options, the driver will be adjusted to
    provide optimum results with that paper.

    In fact, Marc, to help you understand the feature a little better, please go
    to the following URL. Review the technology that is being offered and give
    it a try the next time you make some prints. If the results are not what
    you think the should be or are not better than before, let me know as I
    would like to find out why. We spend months working on specific printers,
    tweaking and adjusting till the results are great. We then post them to the
    website for One Touch. If you have EasyShare software, as noted, you can go
    to the following site and download. We monitor printer manufacturers and
    work closely with them so we have the latest drivers included.

    http://www.kodak.com/go/onetouch

    Give it a try, I am quite sure you will enjoy the results.

    Talk to you soon,

    Ron Baird
    Eastman Kodak Company
     
    Ron Baird, Dec 5, 2003
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    Ron Baird Guest

    Hi Bill,

    Sorry if I confused you with Marc, but your note is interesting in that you
    have not used Kodak paper. Actually, though I work at Kodak, I find it to
    be excellent. The EasyShare and One Touch feature do work quite well, so if
    you should have an interest in the future, I suggest you consider it. I
    think you will find the results quite good. Thanks for the feedback.

    Ron Baird
    Eastman Kodak Company
     
    Ron Baird, Dec 8, 2003
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    Warren Guest

    You'd expect that pigment-based printers (such as the 2200) would be
    relatively tolerant to different paper types, since the colorant is
    intended to remain on the surface of the paper rather than be soaked
    into an outer layer where adverse reactions can occur. This does seem
    to be my experience also (love that matte black).
     
    Warren, Dec 9, 2003
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    stan Guest

    The solution to your problem is simple. Don't use that Kodak Paper any
    more. It sucks, esp. for Epson printers. Your best option is to use
    Epson paper in your printer. Its hard to go wrong with Epson Matte
    Heavyweight paper, which happens to be on sale at Staples this week where
    you buy two 50 packs @ $12.99 each and get a third pack for free.
     
    stan, Dec 15, 2003
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    Mark Herring Guest

    Good advice for the beginner, but otherwise totally simplistic. By
    now, I think we have maybe 20-30 flavors of ink (Big 3 = 6
    flavors---Epson has 4). MIS has 6 or so,, then there is Lyson,
    Mediastreet, Amazon (Pantone), and....???

    Then---how many flavors of paper? I'll guess about 50.

    Take the low end of the range for ink (20) times 50 flavors of paper,
    and you have 1000 combinations.

    What Epson (or any other mfg) is telling you when they sell you their
    particular combo is that they have tested it and had good results.
    This gives the new user a safe starting point, but staying there may
    be limiting.

    I just rigged my Epson 1280 with MIS archival ink (original formula)
    and am getting very nice results with Epson Enhanced Matte. Will try
    the ink with maybe 5 more papers in the next year.

    (NB: The original poster is a colleague--his issue is with Kodak
    glossy paper and the Epson Ultrachrome ink---only one of the 1000
    possibilities. He gave me a piece of the Kodak and I printed with
    1280 dye---looked great)
    **************************
    Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
    Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".
     
    Mark Herring, Dec 23, 2003
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