Epson 4800 Questions

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Rick Baker, Jun 17, 2005.

  1. Rick Baker

    Rick Baker Guest

    Hi,

    I've been thinking of upgrading my printer and one I have my eyes on is the
    Epson 4800. I am literally salivating over it from what I have read, though
    when I heard about the size of this thing I was shocked, but I will make
    room for it if it is something I should have. I have been regularly using
    the 1280 for years now and I'm happy with it, but I would like to print 16 x
    20 prints with archival inks, etc. I went in to my local custom photo lab
    recently and talked to some guys there who tried to dissuade me from buying
    one. I don't know if they were telling me the truth or feeding me with
    stuff so they wouldn't lose my business. They said the cost of running one
    and maintenance would be high. Is this true? They said I would constantly
    have to calibrate it and print "tests" etc and have special software, etc.
    Is is going to be a vastly different experience running this thing versus
    the 1280? I have heard that you initially have to spend $100 in ink filling
    in the heads or something and then it's like 50 cents/11x14. If the above
    is true, I would still like to upgrade to the 2200, the new printer that is
    supposed to replace it or something else(any suggestions?)


    Thanks,

    Rick Baker

    http://www.rickbakerimages.com
     
    Rick Baker, Jun 17, 2005
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  2. Rick Baker

    Rick Baker Guest

    I'm interested in the 4000 and 4800 I'd like to add. What are the
    differences between these and is it going to be a vastly different operating
    experience over the 1280?

    thanks
     
    Rick Baker, Jun 17, 2005
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  3. Rick Baker

    Rick Baker Guest

    If you want consistent scan to print functionality
    Is this any different than the 1280? As long as I can get the consistency
    of the 1280, that's fine with me. I make a ton of prints with my 1280, so
    it would definitely be used. So, is calibration absolutely essential for
    good prints? I am used to not getting exactly what I see on the screen when
    I print, but it is good enough for me and anyone who purchases the prints.
    I mean I purchased a lot of Color Vision's products awhile back including
    monitor and print calibration(no spectro though) would this suffice? I
    could spend an extra thousand for calibration device if really necessary.

    thanks
     
    Rick Baker, Jun 17, 2005
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  4. Rick Baker

    Mark² Guest

    They are absolutely full of crapola. :)

    I have the very similar 4000, and it is virtualy maint. free.
    -A VERY smart machine, built for professional rigors.

    The big advantage for th e 4800 (over the 4000) seems to be that it's built
    specifically to handle B&W images without the tendency toward color-casts
    (which has been my ONLY quibble with the otherwise FANTASTIC Epson 4000).

    You will love the printer...and when you figure in the fact that it comes
    with a TON of ink (the equvalent of many many 1280 cartridges, even AFTER
    priming the head), it becomes a better and better deal.

    I say tell your pro guys to quit lying to you and buy the thing.
    -Mark (Very happy Epson 4000 user)
     
    Mark², Jun 17, 2005
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  5. Rick Baker

    Mark² Guest

    Disagree.
    I'm getting perfectly calibrated prints from my 4000, and have therefore
    postponed purchase of calibration device.
    No you don't.
    Being a "pro printer" only means that it's catoring to special needs of
    large volume, high-standard users.
    It also means it's built like a tank (which it is).
    You can keep the same ink cartridges in the printer for up to a year without
    problems, and that means you don't have to be running huge prints all the
    time.
    There are many many people other than pros who need/want to print wider than
    13" (afforded by 2200, etc.).
    "Justification" becomes more and more easily obtained when you recognize
    that you're basically getting a built-in continuous ink system.

    I recommend that anyone interested in wide prints seriously consider the
    4000/4800, and that those specifically interested in B&W printing go with
    the 4800.
    -Mark
     
    Mark², Jun 17, 2005
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  6. Rick Baker

    Mark² Guest

    Agree 100% with Bill here.

    And... I highly recokmmend www.DigitalArtSupply.com
    -Mark
     
    Mark², Jun 17, 2005
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  7. Rick Baker

    Mark² Guest

    It's as simple as pulling out the "drawer" (which is basically what the
    overflow tank is), and sliding in the replacement.
    DONE.
     
    Mark², Jun 17, 2005
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  8. I thought the spec was to use the ink within six months of opening the
    seal? That may not be right for the new inkset, they may have relaxed
    that requirement.
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Jun 17, 2005
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  9. Rick Baker

    Mark² Guest

    I think that's indeed the "spec," but if you remove the cartridge and rock
    it back and forth, you should be able to extend well beyond that. I've been
    using mine for over 8 months, and still have one of my original cartridges
    with no problems (even without rocking). According to Digital Art Supply,
    there are some substances in the ink which can have a tendency to settle.
    Rocking helps to prevent this. I don't know if this is 100% accurate or
    not, but it makes sense.

    I tend to believe most published recommendations/specs are carefully given
    somewhere well cushioned WITHIN the safety zone.
    -Just like dates on food, etc.

    Could be wrong, but I doubt it.
     
    Mark², Jun 17, 2005
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  10. Rick Baker

    Rick Baker Guest

    Thanks for all the information. I wondered if my lab was feeding me B.S. so
    they wouldn't lose business. I will likely be getting a 4000 or 4800 in the
    near future.
     
    Rick Baker, Jun 17, 2005
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  11. Rick Baker

    Mark² Guest

    I don't know if you're officially supposed to or not, but I have without any
    problems at all.
     
    Mark², Jun 18, 2005
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  12. Rick Baker

    Mark² Guest

    To me with my 1280 it is, I have been at the point where I had about a
    third of a cartridge left and needed to replace to complete a job of
    several hundred small prints seamlessly, I felt rather annoyed that I
    would be penalized for changing the cartridge by one losing a print or
    two having to throw away ink in a 1/3 full cart.[/QUOTE]

    I used to hate that with my 1270.
    That becomes a thing of the past since the carts are individual colors,
    rather than the 1280's multi-color jobs.
    With my 1270, if I happened to do a lot of prints that were mostly sky blue,
    then I'd run out of cyan and have to change carts...even though the other
    colors were nearly full. What a waste of ink/money!
    Most of Epson's newer printers have moved to individual carts...and for goo
    reason.
     
    Mark², Jun 18, 2005
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  13. Rick Baker

    Andrew Haley Guest

    The 7600 just stops when it runs out of ink. It then tells you which
    cartridge to replace and carries on with the print that it's doing. I
    would expect the 4800 to be very similar.

    Andrew.
     
    Andrew Haley, Jun 18, 2005
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