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Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by RichA, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. Nonsense. If the government is spending too much money (and it is), why
    should it be necessary to cut spending *and* raise revenues? That only
    ensures that the problem will continue. Whatever is collected in taxes, the
    federal government will spend.

    When revenues increase greatly, as in the Clinton years, it's because
    corporations and other business are earning a lot more money and paying
    taxes on it. The *government* isn't earning any money. Temporarily at least,
    they were collecting revenue faster than they could spend it.
    We don't NEED "massive military adventures like Iraq." That's the point.
    What's the difference between "Bush land" and "Obama land"? Obama has us
    engaged in more war than Bush did. You may have noticed, the Congress is
    (finally) demanding he stop doing this.
    Well, "liberal" is anyway. But leftism is generally seen as a bad thing in
    the U.S., which is why leftists prefer to call themselves "liberals." Of
    course such "liberals" are not liberal in the classical or 18th century
    sense of the term, but from your comments just above it doesn't sound like
    they are in Canada either.
    That occurred to him a little late, didn't it?

    Too much Hopey-Changey Stuff and little or no concern with reality.
    They'd just go back to the terrorist activities, as many of those released
    already have. Better to keep doing exactly as we have been doing.
    Do you really love paying taxes so much in your country that you see it as
    the immediate and best answer to every problem? Or do you just hate the idea
    of people in some other country not having their pockets turned inside out
    by the government?
    Look at the charts. After peaking around the end of 1999 as I recall, the
    DJIA started sloping downward and continued so basically for the rest of
    Clinton's last year. Recession was coming.

    Again: I am not saying that was Clinton's fault. It wasn't. Silly people
    tend to credit presidents for good economic times and blame them for
    economic declines, but such things happen regardless. Presidents *can* make
    a bad situation much worse, as Obama is demonstrating.
    "Compromising" year after year, continuing to set phony "debt limits" and
    then abandon them, over and over and over, is what has put us in the fix
    we're in. By "compromise" you mean just continuing to kick the can down the
    road. Decades of doing that has led us to this sorry pass.

    More of it could eventually put us in the same mess Greece and Portugal are
    Tell it to the Greeks.
    Well, duh. But the more sensible way of looking at it is exactly the other
    way around: the U.S. government has failed to limit spending in accordance
    with its revenues. Your idea of a solution or "compromise" would only keep
    us going along this same sorry path.
    Raising taxes will do nothing but cripple the economy. That's exactly what
    FDR did in the '30s, raised taxes. And raised them again and again,
    especially on "the rich." That's something that's easy to sell to the
    suckers: "TAX THE RICH!" Hey, man in the street, you're not rich, are you?
    So tax 'em! There's more of us than there are of them, so tax 'em!

    Before Roosevelt finished taxing "the rich" he had raised the top marginal
    income tax rate to 90% -- and put the country in the Great Depression, that
    lasted a decade. With confiscatory taxation on their earnings, "the rich"
    just had no reason to earn as much. Why earn more if the guvmint is just
    going to take it away from you? Go sailing instead, or play golf or
    something. So GDP, which largely depended on "the rich" to keep it up --

    But the suckers will still go for it. They never learn.
    Neil Harrington, Jul 7, 2011
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Funny how high taxes are not crippling other countries economies.

    The suckers are those who think the US can get out of its fiscal mess
    with budget cuts alone.
    Alan Browne, Jul 7, 2011
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    PeterN Guest

    They are not all suckers. Some who advocate that position benefit.
    Just stopping the wars will go a long way.
    PeterN, Jul 7, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    That goes along with the standard lecture/presentation plan;
    "Tell 'em what you are going to tell 'em, tell 'em, tell 'em what you
    told 'em."
    Savageduck, Jul 8, 2011
  5. Seems like a good deal to millions of people, obviously.
    Of what "choice" are you being deprived? If you don't like the OS you can
    dump it and put it whatever you do like -- or just buy a barebones system
    and finish it up however you like. That's a lot more choice than you get
    with any Mac, isn't it?
    Is all that a serious objection, or are you just pulling my leg?
    So you're saying it works very well for everybody -- Microsoft, the computer
    maker, and the consumer all do well. I agree with you. It's a wonderful
    People *have* been doing that sort of thing for a very long time. Never
    heard of a "Fordillac" (Ford with a Cadillac engine)? They were popular --
    among performance enthusiasts who could afford to pay the bill -- way back
    in the 1950s. And a friend of mine several years ago put a late-model Buick
    V6 engine in a 1932 Ford coupe, and also put an independent front suspension
    on it.. You can do anything you want, if you're prepared to pay for it.
    Obviously some of the things you can do cost a lot more money than just
    buying a car as it comes off the assembly line.
    I'm pleased with the choice, and don't find it limiting in the least.

    You seem to be a *very* hard fellow to please. You have all these choices
    available to you, and still you grumble and complain.
    Again, you have all these wonderful choices. You can buy whatever you want
    and do whatever you want with it. PCs obviously offer a lot more choices,
    since you can buy all the parts individually and put together exactly the
    system you want (as I do), or buy a barebones system and just finish it the
    way you like (as I have also done). I don't believe you can do anything like
    that with a Mac, but I suppose as a Mac person you're content with that

    So why aren't you happy?
    So he could have just uninstalled the crap he didn't want. Nothing forced
    him to keep it, eh?
    Some are annoying. Others I enjoy because they're funny, though I have no
    interest at all in the products. Mostly I just have a news channel on during
    the day, and I'm using a computer while the TV is on so I don't pay much
    attention to it until something interesting appears on the screen.
    It's not that bad here. Some channels are worse than others, but I mostly
    just watch Fox News and that isn't bad.
    Neil Harrington, Jul 8, 2011
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    Guest Guest

    kinda funny that all you can do is resort to an ad hominem. again.
    Guest, Jul 8, 2011
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    Guest Guest

    their lives are much better because of the gadgets and can even make
    the kid a millionaire before they graduate high school.


    Q&A: Meet the 15-year-old who just sold his tech startup

    Our guest on the latest GeekWire Podcast was Daniil Kulchenko,
    the 15-year-old sophomore from Kenmore, north of Seattle, who last
    week announced the sale of his cloud-computing startup, Phenona, to
    Vancouver, B.C.-based ActiveState.


    Meet four minor App developers with major ideas. All age 16 or
    younger, they're part of a generation raised with multi-touch and
    social media, and they're cranking out profitable ideas for new
    devices and platforms as fast as manufacturers let them.


    A nine year old Malaysian boy Lim Ding Wen in Singapore has written
    painting application for Apple iPhone and he is also considered as
    the world youngest iPhone developer.
    that's awfully perceptive of you to know how much it costs and whether
    the parents are paying for it or not.
    Guest, Jul 8, 2011
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    John Turco Guest


    "Dollar Tree" is a U.S. national chain. As its name implies, everything
    it sells costs $1.00 USD. (With a few exceptions, such as 50¢ greeting
    John Turco, Jul 9, 2011
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    tony cooper Guest

    Wasn't there, or isn't there, a chain in the UK called The Pound
    Store? Or, is that just a nickname for a store that sells cheap
    tony cooper, Jul 9, 2011
  10. You meant 'Free' as in getting free and good support, often with
    the developers reading and writing themselves, instead of costs
    for licensing *and* support. But of course, commercial support is
    available (not for free) for those who need it.

    Of course, commercial support is available (not for free) for
    those who need it. For example business who depend on something
    working, and don't have (enough) inhouse resources. And the
    support can actually fix the source code for you, quite unlike
    in the proprietary software world.

    Tough shit for you indeed, you fail the '5 years old' test.

    Basically, you feel attacked by the existence of libre software,
    and project your insecurities on me. I wonder --- why? Are you
    really so insecure?

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jul 9, 2011
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    The crazy wingnut believes in a vast global conspiracy among thousands
    of researchers and dozens of nations.
    Ray Fischer, Jul 9, 2011
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    John Turco Guest

    Whisky-dave wrote:


    You can paste the screen capture directly into a graphics program,
    instead of fussing with the Windows "clipboard" utility. That's
    what I do, using "Paint Shop Pro" -- where I also crop the image,
    before saving it.

    Good luck!
    John Turco, Jul 10, 2011
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    Whisky-dave Guest

    Perhaps the words seems is the appropriate then.
    Depends what you're buying doesn't it.
    Yes, on my Mac I can install mac OS, Linux and most windows.

    No it's the facts
    Why do you have to bay $100 for windows software while HP and dell get
    it for far less.

    So wonderful that a company like Apple can charge what you see as a
    fortune for computers
    that aren't as good as PC.

    A you saying the world is a Fordillac buying worlod .
    Not too unlike the Mac then, if you're prepared to pay for good
    quality or something a bit special compared to what everyone else is
    happy with good for you. I thought that was the american way, not all
    following each other like they did in china 'we all have the same
    clothes and the same model bike because that is better for everyone.
    Is the way of the world.

    I don't, I can use Mac OS or windows or linux on my computers.
    I also don;t feel I'm missing out by buying the cheaper 'home edition'

    I was dragged around depatrment stores looking at vfridge freezers at
    the weekend although I tended to gravitate
    towards the computer sections. They hard quite impressive sections for
    Apple Mac, the PC section looked a little pathetic, most of the PCs
    had faults on them of some sort the Macs were all up and running and
    for some reason they got far more attention than the PCs and this went
    for tablets and the iPod style devices.

    I guess it's a pity everyone can;t have the best in life. :)

    Because there is little to gain from such things unless you're a high
    end gamer.
    What do you gain by building your own PC, for the average users there
    is nothing.
    At least with a shop brought computer you have some guarentee/
    Lets see on average you pay more for each component adn you have to
    buy the case install the software
    check on incompabilities.

    I'm happy with my Mac and so are the vast majority of Mac users.
    There's still a very steady stream of ex PCs users going over to mac
    as peolpe realise there's more to using a computer than a pure spec
    base process, just blike they do with cameras today.
    It's a compact or P&S world out there too, but some of us are a bit
    more choosy what's wrong with that, what;'s wrong for pointing out the
    differencies in systems.
    I have 24 PCs being built in my lab currently 4 are faulty, looks like
    memory or mother board problems.
    Not my concern, system support will just have to come back over and
    sort it out.

    he didn;t know how to there was no such option.
    he expected to take the computer out of the box and start using it.
    He should have brought a Mac if he expected that.
    is that a joke..........

    Oh and I think I'll top myself as there's nothing decent to read now
    the News of The World has gone ;-)
    Whisky-dave, Jul 11, 2011
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    Whisky-dave Guest

    We have poundland, poundshop, under a pound, under a fiver and now to
    my area 99p or less.
    They'll soon be selling PCs :)
    Whisky-dave, Jul 11, 2011
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    John Turco Guest

    In a subsequent reply to me, within this same thread, "Whisky-dave" said:

    "We have poundland, poundshop, under a pound, under a fiver and now to
    my area 99p or less.
    They'll soon be selling PCs :)"
    John Turco, Jul 15, 2011
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    John Turco Guest

    Thanks, for the information.
    Dollar Tree does carry some small gadgets. Mainly, it's s a good place
    to obtain minor items (e.g., toothpaste, disposable razors).
    John Turco, Jul 15, 2011
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    tony cooper Guest

    Yes, John, I follow the threads too.
    tony cooper, Jul 16, 2011
  18. But not tons and tons. Ever known a company tell the shareholders:
    "No, we don't want to make even more moneyx."?

    Certainly not. It could be a PR disaster, though.

    Ah, it works with iPhone and iPad because I was talking about
    the Mac. Not that you aren't talking about them, but your words
    don't carry weight.

    Ah, so you are talking out of your ass, since you are NOT part
    of the strategy team.

    It's a native task killer. You cannot build a web app that does
    that on a jailbroken phone. You need to have a native part.

    If you are not able to see contexts ...

    Most people cannot or will not jailbreak the phone. A handful
    jailbroken phones interest Apple less than a sack rice in China.

    Or so the theory says.

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jul 17, 2011
  19. So you are saying all those who use E10 are crazy.
    So what?
    Only if your only stick of measurement is energy density, in which case
    you'd better stick to antimatter.

    Yes, so if you cross a trackless desert without fuel stations, do remember
    to take some more drums of fuel with you.

    And Coca Cola dissolves raw meat.

    Brasil has millions of vehicles running on pure ethanol.

    Only if the price of the fuel is the same per unit. Which is a
    pretty naive assumption --- you should be smarter than that.

    You are incorrectly assumimg most ethanol comes from corn.

    We still have enough. Food shortage is a distribution problem,
    not a question of arable land.

    Mass production makes things more expensive?

    You shouldn't drink of it. Same as other fuels. Though there are
    many ventures in the US that serve such stuff over the counter,
    usually diluted with quite toxic Hydrogen Hydroxide for human
    consumption, and noone cries "foul murder".

    Some people believe the Earth is flat. So?

    We really should expand our living area to the bottom of the sea.

    Which Windows standard? There are so many of them, all not very
    compatible to each other ...


    And yes, I am *sure* MSFS will let me process my photos better.

    Most people have never heard of MSFS either.
    Most small boys cannot imagine having anything to do with girls
    (and enough have never even heard of sex). This often chances
    once they grow up.

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jul 17, 2011
  20. Would you like paying USD 91.00 per gallon?

    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jul 17, 2011
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