Evil Apple's patent infringement of Nokia cost them

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by RichA, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. Then they should love GNU/Linux: OS and tens of thousands of
    programs don't cost you anything.

    Same as with drugs: The drug makers, the importers, the
    dealers, the consumers all do well. It's a wonderful
    arrangement. (Of course the cost of it all is borne by the
    public at large, just as with MS products.)


    Let me guess ... 0.005% of the market? Completely irrelevant.
    That's not a Forderrari, doesn't count.

    I'd be pleased if Linux was put on every computer and whoever
    wanted Windows would have to pay $200 or more extra for the
    OS and more for Office, Outlook (Express) and so on. I'd
    not find that limiting in the least.

    You are very easy to please: any crap will do, let's just
    make it a standard in your mind.

    You can buy all laptop parts individually?
    You can buy all parts for cheaper than the finished computer?
    You can buy most any computer for less if you forego an OS?

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jul 17, 2011
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  2. Take a Citroën 2CV --- 4 wheels and an umbrella.
    And are you willing to pay for parts you have neither need
    nor want for?

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jul 17, 2011
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  3. You should do some googling before arguing, you might find out
    that developing web applications usually isn't done on web servers,
    but on personal machines (which need to have a webserver running,
    of course).

    I consider your reading and comprehension skill to be
    definitively sub par --- you wouldn't intentionally put
    things in my mouth I never said, wouldn't you?

    What existing solution would that be, and why would it work
    for Firefox?

    Your reading comprehension is acting up again.
    - "when released" != "when first released"
    - "perpetually in beta" != not "perfect"

    After all, Windows 1.0 was released some decades ago.


    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jul 17, 2011
  4. One wonders where you put your brain when you utter such a statement.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jul 17, 2011
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    RichA Guest

    Side issue. Though ethanol has caused some major food disruptions in
    the form of increased prices which has impacted the Third World badly
    (Read some of the stories by the envirokooks on their ill-fated
    scheme) the majority of current prices increases in food prices are
    due to increased demand in Asia. I guess they want to end up as
    overweight as most Americans?
     
    RichA, Jul 17, 2011
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    PeterN Guest

    So how does it feel to have an underweight brain.
     
    PeterN, Jul 17, 2011
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    PeterN Guest

    Define "sometimes."
     
    PeterN, Jul 17, 2011
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    tony cooper Guest

    Don't we all pay for parts/features we neither want nor need? I'm
    sure the cost of my mobile phone is somewhat increased because of
    features I have no interest in.

    The counter-argument is that if the maker of my phone had to offer
    more models so that people could buy the exact model that includes
    only the features they want, the maker would incur more costs in
    inventory requirements, packaging labels, and so on. The overall
    costs would increase even if the unit cost decreased, thus resulting
    in an increase in selling price for the unit.

    Paying for features we don't want/need may mean paying less.
     
    tony cooper, Jul 17, 2011
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    John Turco Guest


    Still, you have mentioned that you don't read >every< post.

    (I do, incidentally.)
     
    John Turco, Jul 19, 2011
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    tony cooper Guest

    No, I don't. I do tend to at least skim every post by certain posters
    and completely skip posts made by certain posters. I also skip some
    threads if the subject doesn't interest me.

    Most of the time I skim or skip your posts. You tend to slug in a
    whole bunch of posts weeks after the subject has died, but I happened
    to notice this one.
     
    tony cooper, Jul 20, 2011
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    John Turco Guest

    In late June/early July, I took a break from Usenet; it lasted more than
    a week. After returning, several hours over many days were spent, in order
    to catch up. (During this period, I'd probably perused 1,400+ articles, in
    <edited for brevity>

    Indeed, that's been my usual posting pattern, for a long while. This
    month (July 2011), though, I've been replying comparatively promptly.
     
    John Turco, Jul 24, 2011
  12. Error: No 'sometimes' to define in original post.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jul 24, 2011
  13. But those features are software. Not cheap to write, but
    trivial and cheaper than dirt to copy on one more phone.

    Only if the additional costs for the feature are small to
    begin with. With software they usually are ...
    .... but we're not talking about software costs, we're talking
    license costs here. And while installing Windows is probably a
    very cheap thing, especially on identical machines, the additional
    cost (in form of the license) is anything but small or trivial.

    And here, paying for Windows, if you don't use it, does not mean
    paying less.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jul 24, 2011
  14. But what about the high-end Wintel buyer? Surely he's as
    analytical as the Mac user. Surely there must be quite more high
    end Wintel buyers (after all, you all say the Mac's only a small
    fish in the pond).

    Then you'd still see a huge block of high end Windows hardware
    coming up behind the Mac, assuming there are really many brands
    and models of equivalent high spec Windows machines.

    This doesn't jibe with '50% of the Mac buyers buy their first Mac'.

    You don't see a connection between a huge, high profile, worldwide
    retailer and the retail market wordwide? Well, maybe you're right,
    maybe companies ordering 10,000 machines don't go through Amazon
    .... but that's not the retail market either.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jul 24, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    I like them, and I enjoy driving them.
    I have owned other cars I enjoyed, some I tolerated, one I was truly
    disappointed with and it never lived up to its potential, and one which
    was the worst car I have ever owned ('75 Olds Cutlass, I have been GM
    averse ever since).
    For the most part each of the four Mercedes I have owned feel/felt
    better under my butt than those cars allegedly costing a tenth of the
    price.
    A tenth of the price might be a little bit of an under estimate. My
    latest Mercedes E350, with options cost $56K. I think you will be hard
    pressed to find a new car which will do more than point A to B travel
    for $5,600.

    That said, tere are some great used cars available at that price point.
     
    Savageduck, Aug 11, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    I thought that was more hyperbole than sarcasm.
    Though the effect in your resulting delivery had an element of bathos.
     
    Savageduck, Aug 14, 2011
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    PeterN Guest

    It can't be bathos because my ridiculous comment about running out of
    question marks, was intentional.
     
    PeterN, Aug 14, 2011
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    Savageduck Guest

    That is former Gov. Ahrnuhld. Our current fearless leader is one Jerry Brown.
     
    Savageduck, Aug 19, 2011
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Moonbeam's back? But, alas, sans Linda.
     
    J. Clarke, Aug 19, 2011
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    John Turco Guest


    Shucks, I don't keep up with current events. (That leaves Arnie with
    plenty of free time to prepare for his Wolfgang role, though.)
     
    John Turco, Aug 26, 2011
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