Extended warranties are worthless, nearly

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Rich, Dec 16, 2005.

  1. Rich

    Nikon User Guest

    And that would kill them off sooner. Sounds like a good reason to feed
    them. <g>
     
    Nikon User, Dec 17, 2005
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  2. Rich

    C J Southern Guest

    Sigh, "if only it were true" :(
     
    C J Southern, Dec 17, 2005
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  3. Companies offering extended warranties *make a profit* from them,
    which in the abstract settles the issue. However, if you're buying
    something you can't afford to carry the risk on, you might be better
    off with the extended warranty anyway.
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Dec 18, 2005
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  4. Rich

    eawckyegcy Guest

    Don't strip essential context from my remarks, or you sound more
    foolish than you may be.
    There is no hint at all of your sex, someone uses the male honourific,
    and you get all upset, now claiming to be female. This is classic "I'm
    losing this argument, let's do the distraction show" idiocy. Are all
    females like this, or are you just the typical dumbass male?
    (www.google.com: false dichotomy).
    The bayesian prior is extreme in _technical_ newsgroups (remember that
    qualifier? you probably don't, since you deleted it) to male posters.
    If a 99% certain win is to be achieved by making such and such a bet,
    do you flip a coin, or go with prior knowledge?

    And thanks for admitting your gender, whatever it may be, is completely
    irrelevant.
    Oh, I'm supposed to magically know that "Cimawr" == "Sinonnach" == some
    unknown name are sock puppets of the same entity? That you prefer to
    act like a nitwit doesn't mean I have to...
    Here is Mr. Dykes comment for your edification:

    It's easy to say "I'll buy a new machine when this one dies" but
    the
    time and expense of picking a new laptop, buying it, and
    reinstalling
    all the software and data is not something you want to in year 2 or
    year 3 if you don't have to.

    Doesn't look he said "reinstallation is secondary" to me. Maybe you
    have a different dictionary? It should also be noted, though (and I
    did), that as soon as you have a replacement laptop (by whatever
    means), recovery is indeed a trivial matter. Hence the "non sequitur":
    it simply doesn't matter _where_ the replacement comes from.
    Listen, idiot, look up what "expected value" means and maybe you'll
    start making sense. The definition is _highly relevant_ to the
    operational meaning of "mission critical".
    And as I told you that anyone can win a bet. Are you going to the
    casino right now then?
    You are ignorant. I've replaced the drive in my laptop, and have
    watched as others have done the same with theirs. Out with the old, in
    with the new. Laptop drives are a commodity item; I can have a new
    one in my hands within 30 minutes -- and 20 of those would be walking
    time.
    HA HA HA. Compared to having the "laptop back on the road" within an
    hour or two. Somehow, it no longer surprises me that you are involved
    with government work...
    If you don't like losing arguments, don't make them, nitwit.
     
    eawckyegcy, Dec 19, 2005
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  5. Rich

    eawckyegcy Guest

    groups.google.com; go ahead, and prowl around in the technical
    newsgroups, looking at the names or other clues. It may be nice if
    there were more female participation, but reality is what it is.
     
    eawckyegcy, Dec 19, 2005
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  6. Rich

    Sionnach Guest

    You're quite deliberately ducking the question - normal troll behaviour,
    of course.
    What you are being asked to give citations for is not the male-to-female
    ratio in technical NGs (which this is not a technical group, btw), but your
    nonsensical claim that those who say they are female or use female names are
    actually men pretending to be women.
     
    Sionnach, Dec 20, 2005
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  7. Rich

    eawckyegcy Guest

    Aren't you the dimbulb who believes that you can't change the disk in a
    laptop?
    Of course it isn't. No technical matters are ever discussed here. Not
    once. Not even a few times. Why, the non-technical content of this
    group may be less than 90%! Clearly we have a "soft group" here that
    is populated almost equally by males and females, and everyone speaks
    the truth about their gender identity!
    You need to read my claim, as well as the demand for a "citation" once
    again. Seek help with the longer words or more difficult concepts: at
    least _try_ and make some sense.

    Anyways, a few moments at google can dredge up more than a bit about
    males pretending to be females while online. Anyone who has been
    online for, as you claim, 10 years, would not need to do this though:
    you must have experienced or noticed the effect a long, long, time ago
    and many times since. The reasons why are easy to discern: attention
    is probably the biggest desire. An example from the multi-player
    gaming area:

    http://www.well.com/user/hlr/vcbook/vcbook5.html

    "It appears that the great majority of players are male and the vast
    majority of them choose to present themselves as such. Some males,
    however, taking advantages of the relative rarity of females in
    MUDs,
    present themselves as female and thus stand out to some degree.
    Some use this distinction just for the fun of deceiving others, some
    of
    these going so far as to try to entice male-presenting players into
    sexually-explicit discussions and interactions. This is such a
    widely-noticed phenomenon, in fact, that one is advised by the
    common wisdom to assume that any flirtatious female-presenting
    players are, in real life, males. Such players are often subject to
    ostracism based on this assumption."

    Flirting is hardly required though. And MUD's are not much different
    from USENET for the purposes under discussion, with the possible
    exception that they likely have a slightly more even male to female
    ratio. Just a smidge more slightly.
     
    eawckyegcy, Dec 20, 2005
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  8. Rich

    cimawr Guest

    Aren't you the dimbulb who believes that you can't change the disk in a
    Since I posted about replacing the disk in my construction manager's
    laptop, the answer to that is rather obvious. It's also completely
    irrelevant to your silly claim about female impersonators on USENET -
    which, speaking of obvious, you obviously have no actual data to back
    up.

    Hint: a quote about MUDS, from a book written 13 years ago, is not
    relevant to a discussion about current-day USENET.
     
    cimawr, Dec 20, 2005
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  9. Rich

    eawckyegcy Guest

    Here is what I said:

    And here is your response:
    Never lie on USENET, liar.
     
    eawckyegcy, Dec 20, 2005
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  10. Rich

    cimawr Guest

    Of course it isn't. No technical matters are ever discussed here. Not
    The fact that technical matters about photography are discussed here
    does not make this a "technical group".
    We frequently discuss technical details of dog training on the dog
    groups (for example, comparing the advantages and disadvantages of a
    2/2 contact on the A-frame vs. a 1RTO vs a running) , but that does not
    make them "technical groups", either.
     
    cimawr, Dec 20, 2005
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  11. Rich

    eawckyegcy Guest

    cimawr makes more up as it goes along:
    Fortunately, the rest of the world does not read the dictionary that
    you are writing as you type.
     
    eawckyegcy, Dec 20, 2005
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  12. Rich

    Jim Guest

    Generally you are correct. An extended warranty which merely extends
    the repair coverage is probably a bad idea, particularly in something
    that depreciates rapidly.. like last years 3mp camera's. However, if
    the extended warranty comes with something extra, like priority
    servicing, or additional services (i.e. Apple ProCare) then it might
    be worth it and should be evaluated particularly if you can afford to
    be with out the item.
     
    Jim, Dec 20, 2005
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  13. Rich

    cjcampbell Guest

    Actually, no warranty is 'free.' The free warranty that comes with the
    product is just built into the price of the product. Extended
    warranties are more of the same, though they tend to be even more
    expensive. In any event, all companies consider warranties to be a
    profit center, whether you are forced to buy a warranty with the
    initial purchase or you buy one from a third party and call it an
    extended warranty.

    It is probably a little extreme to declare that any warranty is
    'worthless.' All warranties probably have some value, but that value
    may not be worth the price you pay for it whether the warranty is
    'normal' or 'extended.'

    I will generally not pay for an extended warranty, especially for
    equipment that has fast obsolescense like digital cameras. Most of
    these extended warranties cost more than the camera will be worth when
    they go into effect. Plus, a lot of these warranties require
    considerable time and trouble to make a claim.

    All a warranty is, it is an insurance policy. You are buying insurance
    against your camera breaking under normal wear and tear. Well, it could
    happen. In fact, as the camera ages the probability that it will break
    approaches 100%, which is one reason why extended warranties are so
    expensive. OTOH, as the camera ages, the probability that it will be
    discarded as trash also approaches 100%, so it is ridiculous to price
    the warranty as if every camera will make a claim. Only a tiny
    percentage ever do that.
     
    cjcampbell, Dec 21, 2005
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