External Hard Drives

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by Alan S., Jun 8, 2006.

  1. Alan S.

    Alan S. Guest

    I am looking to increase my HD storage for video editing and have been
    expecting to use a Firewire external hard disc.

    However, locally, it seems to be near impossible to get a Firewire drive.
    All retailers seem to offer is USB2.

    I know that USB2 is faster than USB1 but is it fast enough for video
    editing on PC (with Premiere 6.5, incidentally)? Or should I stick to my
    guns and buy Firewire from a Mail Order company?

    Thanks for your time.

    Alan S.
     
    Alan S., Jun 8, 2006
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    JasonB Guest

    I would say that depends on how you work currently.

    If you continue to use the current disk for video storage whilst
    processing and use the external drive for storing the final processed
    stream then USB2 would be fine.

    If you are looking at streaming video footage direct to an external
    drive *and* process it from there, then personally I would get a
    Firewire drive as Firewire has a much higher overall peak throughput
    compared to USB2.

    Do a search on Google for comparison information and you'll find a lot
    of recommendations for External Firewire 400 drives due to the better
    overall performance.
     
    JasonB, Jun 8, 2006
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    John Russell Guest

    I would buy from a reputable Internet company just to save money, even if
    Firewire drives could be had locally!
     
    John Russell, Jun 8, 2006
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  4. If this is a desktop machine, is there room for another internal
    drive? That is by far the most efficient way of getting more space.

    Maybe it's a laptop, or for some other reason it MUST be an external
    drive. You can sidestep the whole issue by using the new drive for
    storage, not for workspace. Have you got enough internal space to
    work on ONE project?

    The numbers say that even a USB1.1 drive should be plenty fast enough
    for a single DV stream. The crunch tends to come when capturing
    (which I assume you are doing from a DV camera over Firewire?). I
    wouldn't like to guarantee glitchless capture from one external device
    to another external device, in any mix of USB and Firewire.
    Particularly on a laptop.

    Editing isn't really a problem. You're not attempting live mixing of
    multiple av streams I imagine :) Previewing while editing can
    glitch as much as it likes (though I doubt it will). Rendering, which
    is what matters, is done offline. Disk speed isn't critical. If the
    disk delivers only one byte per second rendering will happily continue
    (though you'll be an old man before it finishes :)

    Sure, buy mail order. Why not? Particularly if your local shop
    doesn't stock what you need.
     
    Laurence Payne, Jun 8, 2006
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    :::Jerry:::: Guest

    No they don't, far from it, you are looking at the *theoretical
    MAXIMUM* data rate, not the actual real life data rate.
     
    :::Jerry::::, Jun 8, 2006
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  6. My point, which I agree I didn't emphasise sufficiently being - don't
    believe the numbers!
     
    Laurence Payne, Jun 8, 2006
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    I've got both firewire and USB2 external drives on my PC set-up. The
    firewire box is made by Pyro, and the USB2 external drive is a Gericom
    bought from Aldi - you may find one still in stock at your local branch.

    Both work well - even when capturing from MiniDV camcorder - with no
    dropped frames when using Vegas. Bear in mind that I ensure that there
    are no other programs (or background tasks) running when capturing.

    I did inadvertently once connect the USB2 drive to a USB(1) port and I
    was dropping frames like confetti - with Vegas soon giving up with an
    error message.

    Both drives, BTW, use Western Digital WD2500JB-22GVC).
     
    Tony Morgan, Jun 8, 2006
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    Alan S. Guest

    Thannk you all for the helpfull comments. I'm sorry I didn't acknowledge
    sooner, I was away on holiday.

    Specifics: The sugestion of another internal drive would obviously be
    best but I think I'm full inside already, but I will check.

    The possible problem of capturing via Firewire from the DV camera and to
    an external Firewire drive hadn't occured to me. Thanks for highlighting
    that. The PC has two Firewire connectors, does that make it more likely
    to be OK? To be accurate, the PC has a Pinnacle DV500 card, which has
    two Firewire sockets. I'm using recent drivers so it behaves much more
    like a true Firewire card than with the orignal drivers!

    Thanks again for the replies.

    Alan S.
     
    Alan S., Jun 13, 2006
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