Extra CF cards or X-drive?

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by Rudi, Jul 15, 2003.

  1. Rudi

    Rudi Guest

    Hi everyone,

    I am in the process of trying to decide (at a leisurely pace, for a
    change ) whether to buy more CF cards or just go with an X-drive for
    the moment.

    Let me explain to you where I stand at the moment:

    Most of my photography with my 10D is very comfortably covered by two
    512MB CF cards and one 1Gig Microdrive. I bought another Microdrive at
    one stage, but it arrived DOA, and I got a refund and never bothered
    to buy another.

    Since coming over from the D30 I have noticed the decrease in
    available CF space on my cards, but it has not been a problem yet. I
    *will* eventually need extra CF cards, especially for weddings and
    large event jobs when there is just no time to download these to an
    X-drive or laptop. BTW, I also have a laptop, but this is not usually
    carried to jobs such as these, since it would mostly be in the way.

    I am leaning towards the X-drive at the moment, since they are a
    really good price, and I could download the Microdrive 40 times before
    filling the drive. It will work with USB 2.0 (which I haven't got yet,
    but since it's backward-compatible, why not?), and will make a nice
    "transport storage" for other data than pictures if need be.

    I think I will buy the CF cards only when I need them, a week or so
    before a big job, since the price is dropping like crazy, and I can
    most probably buy what I need for half of today's price when the need
    arises.

    Thoughts? What would YOU do? How much CF storage do you have, do you
    use an external portable HD device, do you use other storage
    (laptop?). I'm interested in what you would do in my situation, just
    in case you can think of something that I might be missing...

    ....has anyone here had any bad experiences with a DW type device? Lost
    files, anything like that? I know there's risk with everything we do,
    I'm just trying to get a feel for what the reliability of these things
    is like... I think that my laptop presents a similar risk, maybe
    slightly less, since I wouldn't be carrying it in my camera bag and
    jarring it all the time, like the X-drive is likely to be.

    I only started thinking about external storage since my whale-watching
    experience a few days ago
    (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/38944). Even though I had
    plenty of spare CF storage left, I could see how easy it would've been
    to run out while still on the boat, with no offload capability, if the
    whales put on a more energetic and spectacular show.

    In my case, the 40GB X-drive2 seems the best value for the buck, and
    it's unlikely that I will need more storage in the near term. The
    downside is the risk of file loss or corruption during transfer, and
    more weight to carry around, as well as yet another thing to keep
    recharging... the upside is yet another backup in case of CF
    corruption or failure (would download to my laptop every night as
    well).



    Regards,

    Rudi
    http://www.rudiphoto.net/
     
    Rudi, Jul 15, 2003
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  2. I shoot with 2 x 512mb CF cards and use a 10GB Image Tank.... this system
    works for me, shooting one while the other downloads....but nothing would be
    as fast as simply swapping to fresh cards.

    I have transfered heaps of Gb (I stopped counting at 50Gb) to my IT and
    never have I had a single file stuff up, but the "geez, I hope they
    tranfered ok" thought still goes through my mind.... if I was shooting a
    wedding I would prob. feel more comfortable with a pocketful of 1Gb CF
    cards, rather than reformatting the card that I just shot on..... luckily I
    don't need to shoot weddings these days. :)

    Russell Stewart
    Australian Digital Photo Of The Day
    http://www.pixelpix.com.au/adpotd.html
     
    AU Digital Photo Of The Day, Jul 15, 2003
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  3. Rudi

    Bruce Murphy Guest

    Even since they renamed USB 1.1 to USB 2 a month or two ago? Seems
    pretty naive. Go firewire! :)

    B>
     
    Bruce Murphy, Jul 15, 2003
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  4. Rudi

    Gavin Cato Guest

    I'm not talking about USB, I'm talking about when you plug the microdrive
    into it, and hit the copy button.
     
    Gavin Cato, Jul 15, 2003
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  5. Pitty the firewire stuff cost heaps more $$$ :-(

    Isn't USB 2 'spose to be fast?
     
    AU Digital Photo Of The Day, Jul 15, 2003
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  6. Ah OK, sorry my mistake.... sounds about right, my 512 takes about 5 or 6 to
    an Image Tank, but running two cards solves this problem, I shoot one while
    the other takes a dump.

    Out of interest, how long does it take to dump to your computer?


    Russell Stewart
    Australian Digital Photo Of The Day
    http://www.pixelpix.com.au/adpotd.html
     
    AU Digital Photo Of The Day, Jul 15, 2003
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  8. Rudi

    Bruce Murphy Guest

    And after all, cheaper things are often much better.
    Yes, but they've chosen cheap and nasty over fast. This doesn't surprise
    too many people.

    B>
     
    Bruce Murphy, Jul 15, 2003
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  9. Rudi

    Lionel Guest

    He's talking about copying from the CF card to the X-Drive,
    unfortunately. 12-15 min's for a Microdrive is a /long/ time. :^/
     
    Lionel, Jul 15, 2003
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  10. Does the X-Drive have an input for an extenal power supply??

    My Image Tank has no internal batteries and is powered by a PowerBank
    external NiMh.... I have never run out of power and have done maybe 6 x
    512mb plus a couple of 1Gb cards in a day.... I even have enough power at
    the end day after doing that, to use it to power my 10D for the night time
    shoot.
     
    AU Digital Photo Of The Day, Jul 16, 2003
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  11. Rudi

    Glen F Guest

    I wouldn't buy an x-drive again - there just isn't enough battery
    ....and why would you bother with these things when you can
    (already) buy a quality brand, no-flat-battery 512k card for
    200 bucks: http://www.ht.com.au/Scripts/xworks.exe?PART:F1618#Tof

    and a 1G card (not a microdrive) for ~500 bucks
    http://www.ht.com.au/Scripts/xworks.exe?PART:E1225#Tof

    ....or even splurge on a 3G card (not microdrive) for $2000
    http://www.ht.com.au/Scripts/xworks.exe?PART:H0077#Tof


    BTW Rudi, did you ever get that S9000 to work??
     
    Glen F, Jul 16, 2003
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  12. Rudi

    k Guest

    yes it does, it has a DC input to charge from the mains.. anyone handy with a
    soldering iron, plastic cases and the capacity to make a packaged battery pack
    look good can knock up an external source quick enough :)

    k
     
    k, Jul 16, 2003
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  13. Because for the same amount you can get 20gig X drive...the battery life may
    not be a problem for alot of people.. 2.5gig is alot of pics...I am sure I
    could find time to recharge it between taking that many pics
     
    Cackling Pipes, Jul 16, 2003
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  14. Rudi

    Glen F Guest

    ...and why would you bother with these things when you can
    An X-drive for 200 bucks? Where?
     
    Glen F, Jul 16, 2003
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  15. Rudi

    Rudi Guest

    Nope, not yet... :-(

    Luckily, it's not *my* printer... :)



    Regards,

    Rudi
    http://www.rudiphoto.net/
     
    Rudi, Jul 16, 2003
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  16. I could not work with CF Cards alone, I take up to 1000 images a day at
    events, plus often I am away for days at a time and I would simply need too
    many cards.

    The Image Tank/X-drive style of thing is perfect for what I do.
     
    AU Digital Photo Of The Day, Jul 16, 2003
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  17. Rudi

    Glen F Guest

    ...and why would you bother with these things when you can
    [That's half a Gig actually - originally my error.]

    OK, so portable hard drive storage is about a factor of 20 cheaper
    than CF, accepting your price and Mic's price... My point was that
    CF storage (even from Coles Myer) is already so cheap that the extra
    hassle and risk of portable electro-mechanical storage is questionable,
    especially for high value images. That is excepting those shooting
    in the 10s of Gigs per outing. How much did you spend pa when you
    shot film?

    CF prices per GB have halved in the last 12 months, and will probably
    halve again in less than that. But then our thirst for Gigs keeps
    growing too...
     
    Glen F, Jul 17, 2003
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  18. AS I said like anything it depends on your situation.....for me a Xdrive
    would be perfectley acceptable option to extra cards, I reckon two CF cards
    and a Xdrive would nearly be perfect...I believe the Xdrive is car
    chargeable as well which is good if your on the move or have access to your
    car......of course there is a risk with any protable storage device just
    like a laptop.

    Yes $265one price
    https://secure3.ozhosting.com/powermarket/pm_stores/PINStore/client/goodslis
    t.asp?productid=58 and they probaly will drop in price as well, especially
    if demand increases.
     
    Cackling Pipes, Jul 17, 2003
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  20. $265? From where?
     
    A bit more than, Jul 17, 2003
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