Fashion Shoot - camera position, lighting and equipment protection

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Powell, Oct 15, 2008.

  1. Powell

    Powell Guest

    Thanks, anyway, I've found the answers I need
    from other sources based on a review of last year's
    photographs. Basically there is an elevated
    runway about 40' long joined to a staging. There is
    an audience of 350 surrounding the runway. I
    needed to stake out my light and camera setup
    for this night event.

    The crux being any camera station off the axis
    of the runway increases the electronic background
    noise ("Whip Pan" distortion) as the talent
    approaches the static camera. An off-axis shot
    will give the model more dimensionally but more
    camera limitations. In addition there is the
    camera phenomenon called "Pull Focus" when
    an object approaches a camera. On axis the
    perfect camera would allow only one f -stop
    for a 40' length, for example.

    OTOH, we may want to use the Zoom
    lense for the approaching and the retreating
    model. Zooming too fast causes a "Zoom
    Whip" distortion and Depth Dolly effect.
    In film this requires a manual "Pull Focus"
    adjustment which usually occurs at
    sone increment of the zoom's length travel.

    No, it was a lighting question. For best lighting I was
    considering a couple of 1,000 watt softbanks
    placed in basic wide key setup. While producing the
    best illumination of subject that would place them
    among the drinking audience... so how does one
    practically do that was the question (crowd control).
    Tight key lighting (close to camera/alternative) is
    problematic, too.

    I know that when the organizer said "DJ' means a radio
    talent MC and radio engineer. I've e-mailed the engineer
    for details.

    Asked and answered.

    Yes, you may be right.

    I now have a custom setup (untested) profile for
    this. As it turns out the XH-A1 has specific custom
    settings to help compensate for these issues.
     
    Powell, Oct 21, 2008
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    ushere Guest

    me too. i've never shot a pro catwalk with MY lights - the lighting
    designer would have killed me!
     
    ushere, Oct 21, 2008
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    mkujbida Guest


    My audio kit contains cables and adapters (1/8", RCA, 1/4" mono &
    stereo, XLR male & female) to be able to plug from any audio device to
    any audio device.
    I also have boxes for impedance matching, ground lifts and level
    dropping (line to mic).


    As has already been mentioned, forget about this idea.
    You're there to shoot the event AS IS, not the way you'd like it to be
    lit.

    I've shot numerous fashion shows and theatre plays, mostly single
    camera.
    My method is to get to the event well ahead of time so that I can
    speak to the lighting person, have them show me their brightest
    lighting set-up, set my f-stop to that level and then leave it there
    for the show.
    After all, if the TV screen gets dim as the result of a lighting
    change, the viewing audience will understand this.
    I also work out an audio feed that is satisfactory for both me and the
    audio person.
    I show that I'm willing to make any compromises necessary and I
    haven't had a problem with anyone yet (over 20 years of doing this).

    Mike
     
    mkujbida, Oct 21, 2008
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  4. Powell

    mkujbida Guest


    Toby, I use a JVC-550 (3 1/2" CCD) and I know this is a major factor
    in shooting the way I do.
    It handles the on-set brightness variations quite well.
    I've tried other (smaller) cameras and they just don't have the
    quality I'm after.
    I shot a fashion show at my kids' grade school one time where the only
    lighting was white Christmas lights along the catwalk. Surprisingly
    enough, it turned out OK.
    I've tried auto iris in the past but found that the auto-iris
    circuitry wasn't fast enough or smart enough to compensate for quick
    lighting changes.
    Also, I'm generally zoomed in either partially or completely on the
    key performer(s) unless it's a scene where it's the entire cast and
    they're taking up the whole stage.
    I realize this isn't what someone in the viewing audience would see
    but my thinking is that the performers (and parents, etc.) are more
    interested in themselves than in the set around them.

    Mike
     
    mkujbida, Oct 22, 2008
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    Larry in AZ Guest

    Are you a netkook..?
     
    Larry in AZ, Oct 23, 2008
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  6. Powell

    Larry in AZ Guest

    Wrong. He hadn't a clue about how to do any of it, not just camera
    placement.

    Like posting in a carpentry group, "Hey guys, I own a hammer. How do I build
    a house?"
     
    Larry in AZ, Oct 23, 2008
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