FCP Question from new user

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by blackburst, Dec 6, 2005.

  1. blackburst

    blackburst Guest

    Just got G5 quad with FCStudio.

    Book says to select scratch disk. A friend who is a user says to use
    the Media dirve, not the Mac drive.

    When I go to select the Media drive as scratch disk, computer says
    "selected directory is on write-protected or non-writable media."

    Any suggestions from experienced FCP users?
    blackburst, Dec 6, 2005
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    Nappy Guest

    Tell us what your media drive is.
    Nappy, Dec 6, 2005
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  3. Try copying a file to the drive just using the Finder.
    You may not have the permissions for the drive correctly set, or the
    drive may need reformatting for some reason.

    .....or you're trying to write to a CD drive.

    bernard.newnham, Dec 6, 2005
  4. blackburst

    blackburst Guest

    SOLVED! I called Apple and reformatted the drive.
    blackburst, Dec 6, 2005
  5. blackburst

    Rick Merrill Guest

    I didn't know a telephone could reformat a drive!
    Rick Merrill, Dec 6, 2005
  6. blackburst

    Bill Fright Guest

    I'm impressed he got to talk to a human at apple. I wonder what he was
    Bill Fright, Dec 7, 2005
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    Ed Anson Guest

    That's no big deal. During the warranty period (up to 3 years, if you
    buy AppleCare) you get to talk to a real person if you have a problem
    with the product. I once spent several hours, spread out over a few
    calls, with one of their people helping me work through a problem with a
    system upgrade. No charge.

    But I also didn't know a telephone could reformat a drive. ;-)
    Ed Anson, Dec 7, 2005
  8. blackburst

    blackburst Guest

    HENRY: You're a funny guy, Tommy.
    TOMMY: Funny how?
    HENRY: You, know, funny...
    TOMMY: Funny how? What am I, some kind of clown?
    HENRY: No, no, funny, the way you tell the story.
    TOMMY: What, am I here to entertain you?
    and so forth..........

    Yes, I got AppleCare. I called my vendor, and he called Apple in a
    conference call. It took about 15 minutes to get a person. My vendor
    explained the problem and hung up. The Apple guy said I had wrong
    permissions on my Media Drive and had me erase the disk (after asking
    me 12 ways if I was SURE there was nothing else on the drive, so I
    wouldn't get mad at him.) Sure enough, the drive became accessible.

    But now, a new problem!....

    I ingested DV footage from a DSR45. When I hit escape, the computer
    told me that the audio may be out of sync. How do I insure that the
    audio is locked? Which option do I select in Log & Capture? DV NTSC or
    DV NTSC Basic?
    blackburst, Dec 7, 2005
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    Nappy Guest

    Dude.. get a PC and a copy of PPro.
    Nappy, Dec 7, 2005
  10. Did you try playing it back to see if there really was a problem? DVCam audio
    is locked, miniDV audio is unlocked. Unlocked audio can drift a maximum of
    1/3 of a frame, that's all.
    Best regards,
    Craig Scheiner
    Craig Scheiner, Dec 21, 2005
  11. blackburst

    Bill Lee Guest

    Firstly may I suggest that you are not capturing the video in the way
    that you probably should be captured. Final Cut Pro is very heavily
    dependent on unbroken timecode, since it relies on that to specify the
    video you want to capture and use. This makes it different to the
    workflow of iMovie or even Final Cut Express where you suddenly decide
    you want a piece of video in your computer and hit the Capture Now
    button as the video streams out the camera or deck.

    The way that I use (and teach) FCP is to run through a tape, making
    entries for all the clips I want to capture with the In, Out and Log
    Clip buttons. This process can often be done fairly quickly, at double
    speed or faster and you don't need to be frame accurate at this stage.
    When all the desired clips are logged, I then select the clips that are
    worthwhile capturing, then select File>Batch Capture to digitise the
    video identified earlier. If you set generous handles ("Handle Size")
    for your logged clips, you can make sure that you don't miss the
    beginning or end of the clips if you were slightly off in the setting of
    In and Out points.

    The above suggestion is extremely important in sorting out good video
    from bad, especially if you have to edit someone else's camerawork and
    have nothing to start with except for a box of tapes (and you may have
    to even write labels on them to start with). FCP is meant to be used in
    production work, where work can be passed on from person to person and
    so you might not know there were 5 bad takes (or so-so takes) before the
    final good one. Doing a Capture Now means you could be capturing bad
    takes unnecessarily, whereas making log entries for clips allows you to
    better decide what video should be captured and what is best left on
    tape, and also how you can later change your mind and get one of those
    'other' takes quickly captured if the 'good' take is not as good as it
    first appeared.

    Where am I going with this, when all you wanted to know why FCP is
    reporting your captured clip out of sync? Well, the process of Capture
    Now is not the best way of using FCP, and comes with some limitations.
    Older versions of FCP (pre-4.5 from vague recollection) reserved and
    prepared disk space able to store the value set in the Preferences of
    "Limit Capture to xx minutes". This took time, and while FCP was
    clearing space for the video, frames were being lost. Newer versions of
    FCP don't pre-reserve disk space for the video and so have less of an
    issue. The use of Capture Now can cause loss of frames in the capture
    process and this may be responsible for out-of-sync video.

    Once video is captured you can use the Tools>Analyze Movie>Clip to see
    if there are any clips that are shorter or longer than they should. Are
    the durations of the video and audio the same?

    If there seem to be problems then try recapturing the video clip by
    selecting the clip in the Browser and selecting File>Batch Capture to
    recapture the video under automated control. The computer will cue up
    the deck and recapture your clip. Then run the Tools>Analyze Movie>Clip
    to see if the problems have disappeared or at least improved. Also check
    with the video and ensure that things are out of sync, since it might be
    just a warning and actually unnoticable in practice..
    This is not something you need to worry about. See:
    I guess this might be the cause of your error message, where the number
    of audio samples captured does not match up with the actual frames
    captured, and so it gets reported as a possible sync issue. If that is
    the case you can safely ignore the error message. Audio that is 1/3 of a
    frame out of sync with the video will not be noticeable, unless you need
    to sync the audio up with another audio soundtrack, and then you can
    sync the audio up within the frames to within 1/100 of a frame.
    The difference between the two is to do with the control commands that
    are supported by your tape deck and passed over the FireWire cable. This
    will have no effect on the video/audio data that is transmitted from
    tape to the computer. Unless you are having problems with your deck
    automatically cuing up tapes and being under your keyboard control you
    should choose DV NTSC.

    Bill Lee

    P.S. Avoid broken timecode. If you have broken time code and you are
    working on a project that your are sure will only require you to capture
    your video once, you may get by with broken time code (but I still
    wouldn't recommend that you do this). Since FCP relies so heavily on
    good unbroken timecode for repeatability and workflow, then you really,
    really, really don't breaks in timecode on your tapes. If you have them,
    caused by bad shooting technique, then think about doing a camera-deck
    digital transfer to ensure an single unbroken timecode tape. After
    working for a couple of days trying to manually cue up a box of tapes
    each with numerous broken timecodes caused by poor camerawork, you will
    feel like taking a baseball bat to the person who allowed this to happen.
    Bill Lee, Dec 21, 2005
  12. blackburst

    Bill Lee Guest

    Although I know it's poor form to be following up on your own postings,
    I just wanted to add a reference to a useful article on Apple's FCP
    "Final Cut Pro: Dropped Frames and Loss of Audio Sync"

    Also, Peachpit Press publish a book in their range of FCP-related books:
    "Optimize Your Final Cut Pro System" by Sean Cullen, et al, ISBN:
    0-321-26871-7 Copyright 2006 [sic]. This contains a large number of
    hints for setting up your system for long term trouble-free work and
    also for helping troubleshoot problems that do arise.

    Bill Lee
    Bill Lee, Dec 22, 2005
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    Antony Lacey Guest

    I'd second this, I borrowed it from a local library to flick through,
    and it was very handy. I got it back out when I had some problems, and
    it turned out there was an easy solution.

    And I followed some of the setup advice wheil I had the book out, and my
    workflow has been more reliable as a result.
    Antony Lacey, Dec 23, 2005
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    Ty Ford Guest

    Does the book cover things like how to do chroma key and other manipulations
    or it it just systems based?

    Ty Ford

    -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
    stuff are at www.tyford.com
    Ty Ford, Dec 23, 2005
  15. Bill Lee, by any chance do you stunt-double for Tony Shaloub? :)

    I would be Oscar Madison to your Felix Unger on FCP, I'm afraid. I mix
    "capture now" on the fly grabs with preset batch lists, all the time,
    my time code is not just broken, it's fractured, and yet...

    -never had a problem yet.

    Don't mind the gentle needling above; I'm jealous of those with better
    habits and discipline than I.
    nobody special, Dec 24, 2005
  16. blackburst

    Bill Lee Guest

    Unfortunately, more like the late John Candy, I'm afraid.
    If it's working for you, then that's great. :) If you are new to FCP
    its better to learn the 'proper' way of doing things. Once you have
    experience and you want/need to take shortcuts then you are free to do
    so, especially if you are the producer, director, editor, color timer,
    sound engineer and tape monkey. The more you have to work with others on
    a project, the more you need to be organised (and to keep others
    organised). This is especially true when you are sharing an edit station
    with others.
    Ah, Like I said, I teach FCP and therefore tend to speak with more
    imperatives that I probably should. It depends on what I'm working on -
    as they say: "You can break the rules, but first you have to know what
    rules you are breaking." I'm not as rigid in my own work as I recommend
    others to be. :)

    Bill Lee
    Bill Lee, Dec 24, 2005
  17. blackburst

    Bill Lee Guest

    Also, Peachpit Press publish a book in their range of FCP-related books:
    There's a whole range of Apple Pro Training Series books by Peachpit.
    Each is a inch-thick (or so) book complete with media DVD-ROM,
    containing about twenty 90-minute lessons which can be done self-paced,
    but they are also the basis of the Apple-certified courses. These
    courses are either classroom or self paced and then the student can sit
    for the exam at a Prometric training centre to become certified.

    If you are interested in Chroma-keying, then the best book in the series
    would be "Apple Pro Training Series: Advanced Editing and Finishing
    Techniques in Final Cut Pro HD, 2nd Edition".
    <http://www.peachpit.com/title/0321256085>. This is the second essential
    book after "Apple Pro Training Series: Final Cut Pro 5"

    Have a look at the range of the books available on the Peachpit web site
    in the Apple Pro Training Series.

    Bill Lee
    Bill Lee, Dec 24, 2005
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