film development choice ilford/agfa b/w

Discussion in 'Darkroom Developing and Printing' started by Willie wjb, Jul 18, 2003.

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    Willie wjb Guest


    i currently use perceptol (1+3) for bw ilford 400 and agfa 400 film (120)

    is there some other combination that gives nice gray tones and low grain?
    perceptol is never in stock and has to be ordered (1-2 weeks)...


    Willie Jan
    Willie wjb, Jul 18, 2003
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  2. Perceptol is a fine-grain developer. It achieves fine grain by using a
    silver solvent to dissolve the edges of the film grains. This reduces
    sharpness as a result. Using it diluted 1:3, however, reduces the silver
    solvent effect and really minimizes the purpose of using this chemical.

    I'd suggest trying Ilford ID-11. It is similar to Perceptol, but it is far
    more common and it has less silver solvent in it. You can still dilute it
    1:1 or 1:3 and use it, although the times might be slightly different.
    Kodak D-76 is almost identical, if you find that easier to obtain.

    Jim MacKenzie, Jul 18, 2003
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  3. Xtol and Acutol are good.
    Michael Scarpitti, Jul 18, 2003
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    Mike King Guest

    I order much of my film and developer from B&H, etc. but my standard combo
    is one that I can acquire locally. If I run out I can then run out and get
    more locally. (Currently Tri-X 120 and HC-110, but also shoot a bit of SFX
    and process some film in Acu-1 and TMax developers.)
    Mike King, Jul 18, 2003
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    John Guest

    Buy a pound of Metol and 50 pounds of sulfite and make your own D-23.
    Never wait again !


    John S. Douglas, Photographer
    John, Jul 19, 2003
  6. Kodak Microdol-X is very similar. In fact, they used to
    be identical according to the MSDS but Ilford evidently
    changed the formula for Perceptol a couple of years ago.
    Microdol-X, used full stength is an extra fine grain
    developer. At 1:3 it has about the same grain as D-76 but
    has some acutance effects and delivers full film speed.
    Microdol-X is restrained with sodium chloride, Perceptol
    with Potassium Bromide.
    Kodak D-25 (you have to mix it yourself) will give similar
    results to the above developers.
    Kodak Xtol will give you nearly as fine grain with very
    nice tonal rendition,
    Richard Knoppow, Jul 22, 2003
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    Andrew Price Guest

    Is Perceptol more-or-less the equivalent of the former Agfa Atomal?
    Andrew Price, Jul 22, 2003
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