Film nod in a movie

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Paul Furman, Feb 24, 2009.

  1. Paper does not come from rain forests. The rain forests (actually jungle,
    rain forest is a term made up to make the jungles sound more "special")
    are being cut down to grow food and provide space for housing.

    Paper and wood products come from tree farms, which are carefully managed
    and produce more trees per acre than natural forests.

    If you are intersted in how to save the rain forests, and reduce or eliminate
    famine, look up "dwarf wheat". The man that developed it has saved over a
    billion people from starvation in the last 30 years. And no, that's not
    an exaguration.

    What this and ebooks has to do with 35mm photography is beyond my understanding,
    but it's IMHO not more off topic than something that contains pixels.

    BTW, if you are looking for a obscure show with a film reference, the last
    episode of "The L Word" had one of women giving her girlfriend a studio
    complete with a darkroom and a "watch the print develop under the safelight"
    scene.

    It is NOT recommended for children.

    Geoff.
     
    Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Feb 27, 2009
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  2. Why not? Because they'd get bored and want to go back to playing their
    video games, decapitating and disemboweling their opponents?

    Sheesh. The puritanism around here is getting pretty thick.


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    Personally, I like Vista, but I probably won't use it. I like it
    because it generates considerable business for me in consulting and
    upgrades. As long as there is hardware and software out there that
    doesn't work, I stay in business. Incidentally, my company motto is
    "If this stuff worked, you wouldn't need me".

    - lifted from sci.electronics.repair
     
    David Nebenzahl, Feb 27, 2009
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    Pete D Guest

    Only some does.
     
    Pete D, Feb 27, 2009
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    Jeff R. Guest

    Ahhh... "wood" that that were true.

    Google: "Tasmania woodchip"

    and weep.
     
    Jeff R., Feb 27, 2009
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  5. Yeah, don't know where Geoffrey gets this stuff, which may be an outcome
    from being totally out of touch w/things by virtue of living in Israel.

    I once lived for a time with a pulpwood cutter, whose job it was to haul
    little spindly trees too small for lumber out of the forest to get
    ground up to make paper, so I do know something about this. Much of the
    forest where this wood is cut is anything but "sustainably" managed;
    this is something that exists in paper-company PR more than in reality.
    (And this was in the United States, not in some "third world" cut
    'em/burn' em/slash 'em place).

    He is right about the rainforests, though: first of all, paper is made
    from softwood (deciduous trees like pine, fir, etc.), not hardwoods as
    are found in such places. And the rainforest (a much more correct and
    descriptive term than "jungle") is being cleared much faster for arable
    land for other crops than for logging.


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    Personally, I like Vista, but I probably won't use it. I like it
    because it generates considerable business for me in consulting and
    upgrades. As long as there is hardware and software out there that
    doesn't work, I stay in business. Incidentally, my company motto is
    "If this stuff worked, you wouldn't need me".

    - lifted from sci.electronics.repair
     
    David Nebenzahl, Feb 28, 2009
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    Annika1980 Guest

    Wow, that is amazing. You taught college?
     
    Annika1980, Feb 28, 2009
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    Annika1980 Guest

    Back on topic, there is a current film called "Everlasting Moments"
    about a woman who was battered and abused and found pleasure when she
    discovered photography.
    See if it reminds you of anyone.

    http://www.ifcfilms.com/viewFilm.htm?filmId=1216
     
    Annika1980, Feb 28, 2009
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    frank Guest

    Yeah, they force you do that when you go for a PhD. Sort of like
    having to put up with digital trolls on a film group.

    All the people who couldn't figure out how to mix chemicals, load film
    in a tank with the lights off, develop, print, think.

    We did make them read a book. Or at least my sections did. Kicking and
    screaming all the way. Surprisingly after much wailing and gnashing of
    teeth, they wrote some of the better and longer reports in the class.
    And undergraduates in the US can wail. Trust me on this one. It gets
    worse as time goes on, depending on the university. Some coddle more
    than others.
     
    frank, Feb 28, 2009
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  9. "Is that going to be on the test?"
    "Do you grade on a curve?"
    "Do we *really* need to remember that?"

    Sheesh.


    --
    Personally, I like Vista, but I probably won't use it. I like it
    because it generates considerable business for me in consulting and
    upgrades. As long as there is hardware and software out there that
    doesn't work, I stay in business. Incidentally, my company motto is
    "If this stuff worked, you wouldn't need me".

    - lifted from sci.electronics.repair
     
    David Nebenzahl, Feb 28, 2009
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  10. You, perhaps, in your crossdressing state?


    --
    Personally, I like Vista, but I probably won't use it. I like it
    because it generates considerable business for me in consulting and
    upgrades. As long as there is hardware and software out there that
    doesn't work, I stay in business. Incidentally, my company motto is
    "If this stuff worked, you wouldn't need me".

    - lifted from sci.electronics.repair
     
    David Nebenzahl, Feb 28, 2009
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    Helen Guest

    Yes indeed, it does remind me of someone. That movie will always have
    special meaning to me.
    "Piff...Paff...Poof!"
    Thank yox
     
    Helen, Feb 28, 2009
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    Annika1980 Guest

    A bunch of OFF-TOPIC crap!

    Hey Nebenzahl, this is a PHOTO group!
     
    Annika1980, Feb 28, 2009
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    tony cooper Guest

    Those are hardly comments that reflect today's youth. I remember
    those exact comments being made when I was in undergraduate school
    between 1956 and 1960. I may have done so myself.
     
    tony cooper, Feb 28, 2009
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    Annika1980 Guest

    Wow, you must have a lot of money. Nice of you to let Obama have a
    few trillion.

    You invested in the stock market. Why shouldn't we invest in
    America's future?
     
    Annika1980, Mar 1, 2009
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  15. Yes: a *non-digital* one.


    --
    Personally, I like Vista, but I probably won't use it. I like it
    because it generates considerable business for me in consulting and
    upgrades. As long as there is hardware and software out there that
    doesn't work, I stay in business. Incidentally, my company motto is
    "If this stuff worked, you wouldn't need me".

    - lifted from sci.electronics.repair
     
    David Nebenzahl, Mar 1, 2009
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    Noons Guest

    Annika1980 wrote,on my timestamp of 1/03/2009 2:12 AM:
    Helen, of course!
     
    Noons, Mar 1, 2009
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    Peter Irwin Guest

    Both of these are avoidable. You can choose fairly odourless stopbath
    and fixer. Washing half a dozen 8x10 FB prints can be done in
    6 or 8 tray changes of water. I think two gallons for a batch of
    half a dozen 8x10s is quite reasonable.

    I tend to wash RC prints under running water, but I do use the more
    economic method for FB prints. (My stopbath and fixer do smell, but I
    don't mind it personally).

    Peter.
     
    Peter Irwin, Mar 1, 2009
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  18. You know, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but now I really think
    you are an ignoramus. China "igmoring" recycling?

    Where do you think the greatest part of the stuff we recycle goes?

    I almost got a job recently with a recycler here in Oakland
    (metals--steel, aluminum, brass, copper, lead, etc.). More than half of
    their output gets put on ships and sent over to China and Vietnam.

    They (China) are actually making things out of all that stuff you put
    out on the curb, then selling it back to us.


    --
    Personally, I like Vista, but I probably won't use it. I like it
    because it generates considerable business for me in consulting and
    upgrades. As long as there is hardware and software out there that
    doesn't work, I stay in business. Incidentally, my company motto is
    "If this stuff worked, you wouldn't need me".

    - lifted from sci.electronics.repair
     
    David Nebenzahl, Mar 1, 2009
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    frank Guest

    pretty much, was an article in the paper a while back that recycling
    is hurting in the current economy. there were some big players that
    have lots of backlog that they can't sell. so, aren't wanting to take
    on more recycled materials, so its going into landfills. and prices
    are dropping. prices drop, its not worth taking cans or paper in for
    fundraising or whatever. i.e. if its not covering basic costs to
    bundle it up for businesses.
     
    frank, Mar 1, 2009
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    frank Guest

    How to find the pre-med students:

    How many A's did you give last semester.

    Most took stuff like Swahili for foreign language. Where I was, grad
    students were funded by how many undergrads were in the classes. So
    give A's, get undergrads, grad students get funds / stipends. Vicious
    cycle in small depts.

    You'd think they would take the nude drawing course, but you had to
    actually be able to draw, not just drool. Photography came after that,
    not a lot of photography in art back then, maybe 2-3 classes if that,
    not enough for a decent area of expertise. More sculpting, welding,
    stuff like that. Probably why you see rusting stuff in public places
    in the US and not a lot of decent photography. Or paint thrown on
    canvas.
     
    frank, Mar 1, 2009
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