Film Scanners - Nikon or Minolta?

Discussion in 'Minolta' started by fruitbat, Aug 13, 2003.

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    fruitbat Guest

    There has been a lot of conversation recently about Minolta's Elite
    5400, but I'm looking for my first film scanner, and at $830 (B&H),
    it's a bit more than the other scanner I was considering (Nikon LS-40,
    $509 at B&H after rebate, I think). I know the Minolta has much higher
    resolution, but I'm not making prints. I'd be using it to display
    stuff online mostly, at least for now, and I'm only an amateur anyway.
    I'd like something with good grain removal feature (like GEM, or
    whatever). So I guess I'd like to know if the LS-40 is "good enough",
    or if I should spend the extra $300 for the Minolta. Nikon touts their
    LED light source as a big advantage. Does it really make that much of
    a difference? Is there another model/brand I should be considering?

    fruitbat, Aug 13, 2003
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    Alan Browne Guest

    If it is for "online" presentation, you certainly do not need a 5400 dpi
    scanner. (The 5400 is still very good value).

    The Nikon will more than meet your needs. To present "on line", eg:
    images up to 1280 x 1024, grain will not be a problem with most films,
    so GEM is not necessarily a requirement. (Caveat: if you are heavily
    cropping, then GEM will help, but then too will a higher res scanner).

    The LED source is likely more reliable than the cold-cathode of the
    Minolta. OTOH I've been running my Dimage Scan Dual for three problem.

    Alan Browne, Aug 13, 2003
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    Simon Guest

    What sort of size of image were you thinking of putting on-line?
    a full frame and displaying it, even at 1800x1200 pixels (which is
    than most web-page images, and about enough resolution for a 6x4 print)
    still only requires 1200dpi resolution. Of course, if you want to crop
    your images significantly, then for the same sized output picture you'll
    need a higher resolution scan.

    Just to make your choice more difficult you may also want to look at the
    Canon FS4000 at 4000dpi who's price is somewhere between the Nikon and
    the Minolta (I can't be more exact as I only know the UK prices!).

    Assuming the above is a 'worst case' (and I wouldn't want to be down-
    loading many web-pages with images that large!), either scanner should
    fine - at 1200dpi you probably won't notice the grain too much anyway
    unless your using fast film and/or getting your exposures wrong.
    It all depends on how long the 'at least for now' lasts, before you
    decide that making large prints is fun too!

    and enough of the 'only an amateur' business! - amateurs are only
    because they don't get paid for it, an amateur doesn't have to think of
    himself as second rate, or have to accept second rate equipment! (not
    Nikon makes second rate equipment).


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    Simon, Aug 13, 2003
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    Ed E. Guest

    For online stuff, the LS-40 is overkill but well worth the money. I've made
    crisp 12x18 prints using it.

    You might want to check into a used film scanner with ICE capability, if you
    only plan to use it for online images. There are some good ones selling at
    around $200 now.
    Ed E., Aug 13, 2003
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    JR Guest

    What wasn't mentioned was the Dmax...If scanning slides this is VERY
    important. This is the scanners ability to handle film with a wide
    dynamic range, or better yet underxposed images. Velvia is difficult to
    scan at any resolution with a scanner with a low Dmax which is why
    everyone says overexpose slide film if you are going to scan it which
    reduces saturation. My Minolta Scan Dual II was really bad at scanning
    slides because of the 2.8(?) Dmax...The Nikon is better at 3.2, but the
    Minolta Scan Elite is 4.8 the highest of any scanner out there. I now
    have the 5400 and that makes a world of difference.

    JR, Aug 15, 2003
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    Matt Clara Guest

    For just placing images online, all you need is an $80 flatbed scanner. The
    rest is way overkill. I bet if you start making scans, soon you'll want to
    make prints, in which case, I'd get the Minolta.
    Matt Clara, Aug 20, 2003
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