Final Cut Completely Blacks out my Entire Monitor!

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Mari, Jul 7, 2004.

  1. Mari

    Mari Guest

    Hi There--

    Total newbie here. Just installed Final Cut HD on my machine, OS 10.3.
    I managed to capture some DV. Saved it. Everything looked okay. Quit
    the program. WooHoo! My first video capture! (outside of a classroom)

    When I tried to open it by clicking on a project file, it opened, but
    my entire monitor went black.

    If I click on wherever the desktop might be and actually hit it, the
    screen returns to normal. (I'm out of FCP, and in the Finder.) When I
    click on a visible FCP window, (returning to FCP-land) everything goes
    black again. If I run the cursor along the very top of the monitor,
    then the pull down windows pull down and I can read them.

    I've tried a hard shut-down on my machine, and disposed of the saved
    DV files.

    Next time it opened, I got a window asking for where everything was
    supposed to be saved to and the cache files. Everything looked
    normal. I reset the folders.

    Then the screen went black again.

    I've searched Apple's website and Google groups and haven't found this
    problem mentioned anywhere.

    Any advice?

    Thanks,

    Mari
     
    Mari, Jul 7, 2004
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  2. Mari

    Stan Guest

    (Mari) wrote:

    }Hi There--
    }
    }Total newbie here. Just installed Final Cut HD on my machine, OS 10.3.
    }I managed to capture some DV. Saved it. Everything looked okay. Quit
    }the program. WooHoo! My first video capture! (outside of a classroom)
    }
    }When I tried to open it by clicking on a project file, it opened, but
    }my entire monitor went black.
    }
    }If I click on wherever the desktop might be and actually hit it, the
    }screen returns to normal. (I'm out of FCP, and in the Finder.) When I
    }click on a visible FCP window, (returning to FCP-land) everything goes
    }black again. If I run the cursor along the very top of the monitor,
    }then the pull down windows pull down and I can read them.
    }
    }I've tried a hard shut-down on my machine, and disposed of the saved
    }DV files.
    }
    }Next time it opened, I got a window asking for where everything was
    }supposed to be saved to and the cache files. Everything looked
    }normal. I reset the folders.


    Where did the DV come from? By any chance, was it a European DV
    camcorder?

    Stan.
     
    Stan, Jul 7, 2004
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  3. Mari

    Joe Guest

    Are you using two monitors? Final cut may be seeing your main monitor as
    the playback monitor. You can change this in the user settings, but not if
    you can't see anything. Experiment with your monitor settings - turn
    mirroring on or off, change the primary - secondary display settings
     
    Joe, Jul 7, 2004
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  4. Mari

    nappy Guest

    you've probably found another bug put there by the hippies at Apple.

    If NOT, then check your display settings and make sure it is not set to full
    screen desktop. I doubt FCP would come up that way but it is such a piece of
    crap that anything is possible...
     
    nappy, Jul 7, 2004
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  5. Mari

    Mari Guest

    Where did the DV come from? By any chance, was it a European DV
    Thanks for replying, Stan.

    No, it was a US camera. It's an old Sony Hi-8 Digital handycam with an
    early firewire output. I had to push play on the camera and hit
    'capture now' - no control from FCP.The footage looked fine as it was
    being captured.

    I'm not sure if I was clear about this. I have one monitor. After FCP
    starts and goes through its startup gyrations, the entire screen goes
    black, not just the canvas or viewer. Everything. The entire monitor.
    Only when I fish around and find the desktop and click on it does the
    screen return to normal. When I click back on a FCP window, the
    entire screen goes black again.

    I trashed the preferences and it seems to open okay now, but I also
    trashed the footage, so I don't know if it will repeat the
    performance. I'll let future people with this problem know whether
    this stays working when I try again tonight. I'm going to try
    capturing through the S-Vid on my Matrox card.

    Have a great day. Thanks for replying.

    Mari
     
    Mari, Jul 7, 2004
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  6. Mari

    Bill Fright Guest

    this nap kid is a fool.

    I've won three awards since using FCP and have been using macs since
    they were first put on the market.

    Has this fool ever seen a picture of Bill Gates in the seventies?

    eck
     
    Bill Fright, Jul 9, 2004
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  7. Mari

    Bill Fright Guest

    Hey Mari,

    I think I know what is up. Go to View / External video and select all
    frames. As someone else mentioned you are probably mirroring your
    external display as well. I doubt the footage would cause this but I'd
    try capturing anything else and test it in FCP. FCP decides if it can
    read a file as soon as you try to set it in the browser so I really
    don't think the file is at fault.

    Also I think you said you had to do a hard reboot. In osx you need to
    reset the permissions after you do that. Go to applications / Utilities
    and open disk utilities. Select your boot drive and First Aid and click
    on Repair Disk Permissions.

    FCP seems to care about Disk Permissions more than any other program I
    use and it seems whenever (seldom I might add) FCP acts up this solves
    the problem.

    Hope that helps,
    Bill
     
    Bill Fright, Jul 9, 2004
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  8. Mari

    nappy Guest

    Ha... three awards? Perhaps you could tell us what that has to do with FCP?
    Are you saying YOU won awards or FCP won awards?
    Ever used any OTHER editor? Probably not. And .. let's see if we can guess
    which awards those would be...

    If you have been using macs since their inception then you are unable to
    make any comparison. .
     
    nappy, Jul 10, 2004
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  9. Mari

    nappy Guest

    That is because FCP is so poorly coded.

    To expect people to know that they have to perform some lower level system
    maintenance like repairing disk permissions is a little out of the scope of
    the mac ideolody isn't it? Or is it idiotology?
     
    nappy, Jul 10, 2004
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  10. Mari

    Bill Fright Guest

    Okay nappy since your brain does not function like it should I'll answer
    your questions. I pride myself in contributing to the handicapped.


    I won awards while using FCP and like any tool it provided the interface
    in which I could be creative. Yes CMX, Paltex, Avid and now FCP.

    What? You are assuming I've not owned and used PCs and even a couple
    Amigas. This is the logic that gives you such great parking spaces.
     
    Bill Fright, Jul 10, 2004
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  11. Mari

    nappy Guest


    So Like I said.. FCP is not the reason you won awards.. Therefor I can
    assume there was absolutely no point in mentioning that you won some silly
    award.
    try hard to discuss FCP without making personal insults.. If you can.
    You said you always used macs. A logical assumtion that you haven't used PCs
    very much.


    Now... back to reality. I have been writing code since 1978. I write for all
    platforms, mac and windows, and embedded gear. You may even be using some
    of it to win your 'awards'. I find the code running in FCP to be grossly
    inferior to apps that ran here in my studio years ago.Ir is poorly done.
    That's all there is to it. Now,, I have won awards, too. Even up for a
    technical Academy Award in 1992 for work on a few major features.. But I
    know for SURE that awards are completely and totally USELESS and have no
    relevance to a discussion about FCP or anything else for that matter.

    Now I didn't bother to verbally attack you in this response. I don't tie
    the people who USE a program together with the app itself. Perhaps you could
    show a little class in your responses also.
     
    nappy, Jul 10, 2004
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  12. Mari

    Bill Fright Guest

    this is my last reply to you forever. You can not stay on topic.
    Yes it is a part of it for sure.

    no that is not logical. It is assumption on your part.
    A lot of the above is absolute bullshit. I read most of the trade mags
    and have done plenty of research and your code theory is just that. Your
    code theory. No one else has said that in anything I've read. If it were
    even rumored I'd have heard of it.

    For the record I brought up the awards simply to help my point in
    relating to Mari (remember Mari) that FCP is a stable program and has
    been fruitful.

    As far as tact have you done the math on your responces yet? Until you
    do don't expect an apology. You are a lurker / attacker and you do not
    stay on topic and you add nothing but opinion and little if any facts.

    Now for the kill file.
     
    Bill Fright, Jul 10, 2004
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  13. Mari

    Bill Fright Guest

    this is my last reply to you forever. You can not stay on topic.
    Yes it is a part of it for sure.

    no that is not logical. It is assumption on your part.
    A lot of the above is absolute bullshit. I read most of the trade mags
    and have done plenty of research and your code theory is just that. Your
    code theory. No one else has said that in anything I've read. If it were
    even rumored I'd have heard of it.

    For the record I brought up the awards simply to help my point in
    relating to Mari (remember Mari) that FCP is a stable program and has
    been fruitful.

    As far as tact have you done the math on your responces yet? Until you
    do don't expect an apology. You are a lurker / attacker and you do not
    stay on topic and you add nothing but opinion and little if any facts.

    Now for the kill file.
     
    Bill Fright, Jul 10, 2004
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  14. Mari

    nappy Guest


    You don't have to 'hear of it' if you have the capability to determine it
    for yourself. If you don't write software then you probably think FCP is
    using the very latest methods to mix audio, keep track of pointers and files
    and realtime render video..;. FCP does none of these things with very much
    efficiency.. instead forcing the user to wait and wade through countless
    progress bars .....

    OF course it is my theory and it is based on experience. I certainly would
    not offer anyone else's opinion. duh.

    Trade Mags? Those are just ad vehicles.. you won't see critical discussions
    in trade mags.. sheesh.. Those people have to endure each other at NAB,
    SIGGRAPH, etc.. Get serious.
    There is NO relationship between some award and the stability of a program.


    You responded to my post.

    Instead of getting in over your head in discussions like these and then
    attacking the messenger you should just stay out of them. I posted that in
    my opinion FCP was very poorly and probably hastily coded over an incomplete
    OS and you responded that you had won awards. A discussion of software may
    be out of your league.


    Now you've really hurt my feelings.
     
    nappy, Jul 11, 2004
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