Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Geegan, Feb 7, 2007.

  1. Geegan

    Geegan Guest


    I'm using FCP, and I'm trying to edit, but in the playback, instead of
    playing the real audio - I just hear annoying pulses/beeps every half

    How do I turn this off, and have it play the real audio/voices from the


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    Geegan, Feb 7, 2007
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  2. This usuall means you are trying to playback too many audio-tracks than you
    have specified in the pre-set. Depending on your system-performance, you
    can tell FCP how many audio-tracks in parallel it can playback without
    problems (like stuttering). FCP will then beep if you passed that limit,
    telling you to render your soundtrack.


    Martin Heffels, Feb 7, 2007
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  3. Geegan

    Jim Guest

    IIRC this can also mean the clip needs rendering (if playing in the
    Jim, Feb 7, 2007
  4. You DID render first, right?
    Reginald Dwight, Feb 7, 2007
  5. Geegan

    Kill Bill Guest

    Check to make sure that your audio file is set at the same settings
    (16-bit/48kHz) as your sequence.

    Kill Bill, Feb 7, 2007
  6. Geegan

    Mike Kujbida Guest

    And people wonder why I prefer editing on a PC.
    NONE of these issues have ever come up for me with Vegas.
    And I mean that sincerely. I've done multi-track (15 or more audio tracks)
    with a mix of wave files at 44.1 & 48K, mp3, wma and even mp4s and Vegas
    doesn't care :)

    (who's seriously considering a Mac Pro Quad Xeon for his next purchase so
    please, no flames)
    Mike Kujbida, Feb 7, 2007
  7. Geegan

    Smarty Guest


    FYI........I bought a MacPro 3.0 Quad Xeon, and FCP HD Studio is fast but
    still slower in rendering than Vegas 7.0d on my lowly single processor 3.2
    GHz P4 Dell. Both systems have identical SAT drives and 4 GB or RAM.

    Smarty, Feb 8, 2007
  8. Geegan

    Mike Kujbida Guest

    Thanks Smarty. That's not good to hear.
    On second thought, maybe it is.
    I've been going back and forth between the Mac and a quad core on a PC.
    You may have made my mind up for me.

    Mike Kujbida, Feb 8, 2007
  9. Geegan

    Smarty Guest


    I was disappointed with the performance, since the rendering quality of FCP
    / Compressor is excellent, and I prefer it for this and other reasons if
    time is NOT of the essence. Apple offers XSERVE / render farm solutions
    which can speed up rendering, but the cost/performance increase is hardly

    I'm a loyal and committed user of the Mac since its inception, and I despise
    the bashing and holy wars surrounding platform zealots, but rendering speed
    is the only remaining penalty I have personally experienced with the latest
    and best Mac and FCP suite software.

    Smarty, Feb 8, 2007
  10. I think you need to render the audio first. Use the menu command
    Sequence>Render All>Both and I think that will solve your problem. Of
    course, let me know if I'm wrong!

    Charles Schorner, Feb 8, 2007
  11. Are you seriously that stupid?

    Funny. That's never happened to me on a Mac. Wonder why?
    Ura Dippschit, Feb 8, 2007
  12. Right. No point actually testing out for yourself.
    Ura Dippschit, Feb 8, 2007
  13. Geegan

    ushere Guest

    in defence of user groups, and some of the very knowledgeable people
    inhabiting them, (notably in this instance mike and smarty) - where do
    you actually 'test out' all the various options? borrow a machine from
    your local store? pay hourly rate for studio using machine and software?

    i have found the discussions among the users on this and other groups to
    be my first port of call when considering any new equipment. i have yet
    to be mislead by qualified advice / reviews. and at the end of the day,
    have saved time and money by using other peoples experiences.

    on the other hand, there's a lot of people blowing a lot of hot air out
    of various orafices, but then again, you know where the smell is
    eminating from....

    ushere, Feb 8, 2007
  14. Geegan

    Shausha Guest

    You need to render first.

    In your timeline, do some of the clips have red bars across them (top
    of the timeline)? If yes then it is these that need to be rendered and
    depending on the amount you have to render it may be worth just
    selecting those bits to reduce teh wait.

    Shausha, Feb 8, 2007
  15. Hmmm...Apple Stores have Final Cut Pro install on their machines for
    testing out with plenty of files to mess with. Not sure why he'd need to
    test Vegas if he already has it.
    Mike says "NONE of these issues have ever come up for me with Vegas" as
    if that should imply that NO Vegas user has ever had a problem or that
    Final Cut users should expect problems. What else could he be implying
    with that statement when leading with "And people wonder why I prefer
    editing on a PC"?

    I've had 15 tracks or more on Final Cut without so much as a hiccup. So
    what? The guy who posted could just have a wrong setting, a bad drive,
    forgot to do something relevant to the problem. Too bad he doesn't have
    Vegas! Then there'd be no problem! :)
    Ura Dippschit, Feb 8, 2007
  16. Time for "Vegas for Mac" then ;-) Something which could always happen with
    the Macintel's by the way :)
    I thought a Dual-G4 always with seperate video-drive to be fast enough to
    handle 8 tracks, but the *bleeping* thing kept bleeping, with 2 tracks from
    the video, and 6 tracks uncompressed WAV (no effects). After a while the
    Render Audio before preview, becomes a rather natural habit :))

    Martin Heffels, Feb 8, 2007
  17. Geegan

    Mike Kujbida Guest

    That's assuming that there's an Apple store in my immediate area. There
    Wait a minute. I'll drop $5,000 on a machine only to find out tha tit
    doesn't meet my needs.
    Yeah, right.

    Leslie and I think alike.

    Read my original response. I didn't say 15 audio tracks on FCP was a
    problem. I said that 15 tracks of varying audio formats WAS a problem for
    FCP and that this is something Vegas handles with ease.

    Mike Kujbida, Feb 8, 2007
  18. Except it isn't. That makes you full of shit.
    Ura Dippschit, Feb 8, 2007
  19. Geegan

    Kill Bill Guest

    hahaha.. And here they come, right on cue too.. Theres a whole crew here
    of the "claim they have used mac" crowd.

    p.s. this same issue of the beeping happens on Premiere Pro too BTW
    when you mis match audio files..

    Kill Bill, Feb 8, 2007
  20. Geegan

    Mike Kujbida Guest

    If you say so.
    Can you drop one each of DV-AVI, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, Quicktime, WMV and
    Real video clips as well as wave, wma, mp3 and mp4 audio clips on one
    timeline and play it back without doing anything to it?

    BTW, here's one response from a guy who's used FCP extensively. It's
    from Oct. 2006 so there is a chance that Apple has made some changes
    since then.

    Here is the quick list of things that Vegas can do that FCP cannot:

    - True format and resolution indepedance
    - Mix resolutions on the same timeline without rendering or losing
    real-time performance (FCP is a LOOOONG way from this)
    - Add, remove and adjust effects During real-time playback
    - Surround sound mixing
    - Unlimted Parent-Child track control
    - Video effects at event, track and output level
    - Video and audio bus tracks for project level automation
    - Bus level automated motion blur and super-sampling
    - One-click audio normalising
    - Real, smaple accurate, audio multitracking tools (audio in FCP is a
    cruel joke)
    - 3D track motion and animation
    - Unlimited point bezier masks
    - Velocity frame rate control envelopes
    - Open scripting in Visual basic or Java script
    - Multiple copies of Vegas open at the same time (have one rendering
    while you edit in another at the same time..!)
    - Punch in, punch out audio recording
    - Streaming media meta-data commands from the timeline
    - On the fly marker inserts during playback
    - Monitor wet/record dry audio recording (hear the input with effects
    but record without effects)
    - Simultaneous multi-channel audio recording with real-time effects
    - Parent-Track compositing modes
    - RED Book CD mastering form the timeline
    - Audio Pitch and Tempo correction on the timeline
    - Control surface suppourt for any MIDI device
    - MIDI Timecode synchronisation
    - Built in Metronome and flexible ruler format including all timecodes
    as well as Measures (bars and beats)
    - Bump, Displacement and Height mapping track options
    - Unlimited 'undo'
    - Import from any source format including DVD camcorders and direct
    export for mobile devices; psp, ipod.
    - Built in CD ripper/extractor
    - Synch audio tracks with online CD database for metadata retrival
    - Built in suppourt for dolby AC-3 format
    - One click red-eye removal
    - Bus to Bus audio mixing
    - Abilty to import, read and edit already authored DVDs
    - Real-time one-click video event Reverse
    - Envelope animation control of transitions
    - Free-hand Paint-on envelopes (audio, pan, velocity, motion blur etc)
    - Split screen preview for pre and post effect...
    Mike Kujbida, Feb 8, 2007
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