first try at a portrait.

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Dirty Harry, Mar 30, 2005.

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    Dirty Harry Guest

    http://harryphotos.com/candice2.jpg

    If i could replicate this at a persons home do you think I could charge big
    bucks for in house photography? I'm a total noob at shooting people but it
    seems like a good way to get my foot in the door. I have a half decent set
    of equipment and a home made light (soon to be 2 lights)
    www.harryphotos.com/500watt1.jpg
    I'm really interested in starting a career but I am 100% self taught so any
    tips or info would be great. Thanks
     
    Dirty Harry, Mar 30, 2005
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    Owamanga Guest

    She looks annoyed, the catchlight has completely obliterated her pupil
    and we can only see one eye.

    Will people pay for this? I dunno. Maybe where you live they do.

    The second light will help I'm sure.
     
    Owamanga, Mar 30, 2005
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    Dirty Harry Guest

    Yea I know she needs to be looking slightly more towards me but I only had
    about 5 mins to work with her lol. Shes comming back later...
     
    Dirty Harry, Mar 30, 2005
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    Dirty Harry Guest

    And i know her nose shouldn't break the cheek line...back to ye old drawing
    board...
     
    Dirty Harry, Mar 30, 2005
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    Dirty Harry Guest

    How far away should I have the catch light?
     
    Dirty Harry, Mar 30, 2005
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    Owamanga Guest

    I have no experience in actually photographing studio portraits, just
    that I know the catchlight looks better if it is:

    1) on it's own (which yours is)
    2) isn't splattering the pupil.

    Get the model to look away from the light, and it'll move off her
    pupil. I don't think distance is the issue.

    Note on 1: If you do end up with 2 catchlights and they look
    distracting, just photoshop one of them out.

    Also, if you wan't to tell how someone has lit a models face (from a
    magazine etc,) just look closely at the catchlights (assuming they
    haven't photoshoped it....!)

    Third light to consider is a hair-light often high above the model, so
    she doesn't blend into darkness so easily.

    But, people who've actually done this type of work can offer you some
    real advice...
     
    Owamanga, Mar 30, 2005
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    Scott W Guest

    Over all a pretty good photo.

    To me the color seems a bit on the warm side, this might just be me.

    The forehead seems to be a bit blown out in the red channel.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Mar 30, 2005
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    Mike Kohary Guest

    Her skin is orange. Easily rectified in Photoshop, or with custom white
    balance on the camera. :)
     
    Mike Kohary, Mar 30, 2005
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    Mike Kohary Guest

    Also, you'll need two more lights - another catch light and a highlight in
    back, to catch the hair and make the subject stand out from the background,
    not fade into it.
     
    Mike Kohary, Mar 30, 2005
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    Dirty Harry Guest

    Thanks for the tips, so far I've mostly done landscapes so people are a
    whole different beast. I had a 100w hair light but I don't think the beam
    was concentrated enough.
     
    Dirty Harry, Mar 30, 2005
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    Dirty Harry Guest

    Yea I've reduced the brightness on the forehead since posting :)
     
    Dirty Harry, Mar 31, 2005
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    Dirty Harry Guest


    Thanks for all the great suggestions, look for more stuff soon I hope. (as
    soon as I can find some more victims). Also any tips on how to work with
    ppl in this situation would be great cause I'm not that much of a people
    person (trying to fix that hehe).
     
    Dirty Harry, Mar 31, 2005
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    BillB Guest

    Thuvia, Maid of Mars?
     
    BillB, Mar 31, 2005
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    McLeod Guest


    Ok, I'll add some points the others didn't. I agree with the problem
    partial eye showing. Either show it or don't. The edge of your main
    light is reflecting off the high points of her ear making it appear
    greasy and like a cauliflower ear, even though I'm sure it isn't.
    There is much more space behind the head than in the direction she is
    looking which adds an uncomfortable feel to the image which I'm sure
    wasn't your attention. Recropping the image would help. The very low
    camera angle is usually reserved for making someone appear heroic, but
    it doesn't look too bad with your subject looking off camera, as long
    as your subject likes the image. Most people are used to seeing
    themselves in the mirror at eye level.

    About the lighting-it looks like you forgot to change the white
    balance in your camera (if shooting digital) or didn't filter the
    tungsten which is 3200 degrees Kelvin if you were shooting film.
    Daylight balance is 5000 degrees K. I won't mention the hairlight
    again, since you say youhad one, it obviously wasn't close enough.
    You will find it very hard to keep people still the length of time
    required to make an exposure with 500 watt tungsten lights.
     
    McLeod, Mar 31, 2005
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    Dirty Harry Guest

    Yea I've been shooting f4.5 at 1/80th, and the white balance is pretty warm.
    Do you recomend a higher fstop?
     
    Dirty Harry, Mar 31, 2005
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    Dirty Harry Guest

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    UC Guest

    Whoever produced this monstrosity should be shot...it's horrible.
     
    UC, Mar 31, 2005
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    Owamanga Guest

    So, you blame the parents then.

    Anyway, what about the photo?
     
    Owamanga, Mar 31, 2005
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    UC Guest

    I WAS talking about the photo, dumbass!

     
    UC, Mar 31, 2005
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