Follow up Q: Is there such a thing as a fake lens?

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by MY5TMAN, Jan 19, 2006.

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    MY5TMAN Guest

    MY5TMAN, Jan 19, 2006
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    khangu Guest

    I have never ran across a knock-off lens before, and I've been in S-E
    asia many times, in all manner of shops and markets.

    Buying from Ebay, they'll be more likely to send you a brick, rather
    than a knock-off lens IF they wanted to rob you.

    Simple electronics, yeah there are quite a few blatant knock-offs, but
    lens and cameras... especially DSLRs, it would be quite hard to

    If you are buying in HK, and are able to see it first-hand, then it
    should be the real deal.
    khangu, Jan 19, 2006
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    kosh Guest

    and the... there's 2nd hand Leicas.... fakes were a cottage industry!

    kosh, Jan 19, 2006
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    khangu Guest

    Buying anything through the post is always going to be risky. After all
    - you've already paid for it and hoping you get something in the mail
    in return.

    But buying gear first-hand, and being able to look at it, hold it and
    trying it out, I'm sure you would know a fake Leica from a real one. If
    they went to all the trouble to accurately replicate a Leica, I'm sure
    they won't make any money from selling it.
    khangu, Jan 19, 2006
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    kosh Guest

    actually... Leica had to issue a book on how to identify fakes.... many
    "experts" have been caught out. I have handled several, with only a
    slight suspicion supported by a serial number mismatch.... having
    handled many leicas.... it was a touch easier to spot the fake, but they
    did that many mods and special additions, anything is possible.

    There are plenty of "brassed" III series cameras masquerading as gold
    plated.... some good some bad. The Russian copies after WWII could get
    quite good.... there were also many not so godd copies, usually spotted
    by their less than refined workings.

    kosh, Jan 19, 2006
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    khangu Guest

    Yeah, these were done in Europe though. Maybe they were factory
    rejects. Imagine the trouble it takes to machine all the parts to make
    a camera, and assemble them.

    I doubt if the asians would have the facilities to churn out good
    enough fakes that would fool a Leica user.

    Having said that though, there's probably not much of a market for them
    in Asia to bother. The market for watches is quite large though, and
    the fakes do look like the real thing.
    khangu, Jan 20, 2006
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    MY5TMAN Guest

    Thanks for the info guys. Puts my mind at rest. I've got a serial
    number and a photo that is genuine. I guess it's just makeing sure that
    the dealer's legit - or buy retail and see with 2x eyes *grin*.
    Appreciate the time you've taken to reply!

    - Michael
    MY5TMAN, Jan 20, 2006
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    MY5TMAN Guest

    Thanks for the time you've taken to answer the Q guys.

    Another one: Does anyone know what a MAC Warranty is? And is it
    necessary for AUS?

    MY5TMAN, Jan 20, 2006
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    khangu Guest


    Lens have international warranty, so as such, there is no reason to buy
    a Mack warranty unless you wanted an extended warranty.

    On the other hand, digital bodies (DSLRs) do not have international
    warranty, and are only serviced in the country of purchase. Anecdotal
    do seem to indicate that people buying DSLRs overseas had been able to
    sweet talk the Australian service centres to repair their cameras under

    I would judge whether the costs of a Mack warranty is worthwhile in
    relation to the risk of getting a bad len, and the cost of the len.

    Do a search for Mack warranty at the forums at:

    There should be a lot of talk about them.
    khangu, Jan 20, 2006
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    kosh Guest

    actually I believe there was a time after the war that all german
    patents become open..... allowing absolute and legal rip-offs

    kosh, Jan 20, 2006
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    MY5TMAN Guest

    That's why I'm so Paranoid. I bought a Canon eos 300D last year when I
    was on a Contiki tour. Something broke within [the AUSTRIAN!] warranty
    period after I returned and Canon [Australia] dug their heels in.

    I suspect when they opened it up and saw it was a simple fuse problem,
    they couldn't be bothered with the fuss and were quite cooperative
    after that. Infact, when I rang them to see what the status of the
    camera was, it was already comp-ed and on it's way back to me.

    Fantastic service after they were cooperative. I wasn't aware that
    there was a difference in body vs lens warranty...
    MY5TMAN, Jan 21, 2006
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    khangu Guest

    There is a difference in warranty. That is why they have a 'grey'

    Even in Australia, you can order a 'grey' market DSLR, which is the
    same as the local units, but for a cheaper price. This is supposedly to
    offset the missing local warranty from Canon.

    Some local internet vendors do give their own 1 year replacement
    warranty though, but I don't know how hard it is to return it.
    khangu, Jan 21, 2006
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