formats for the internet: streaming or to download ? WM- QT- or Real- Player ?

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Patrice Panis, Dec 24, 2004.

  1. I'm afraid I am not very clear yet with my question "which format of video
    for the internet ?"

    I should have precised that the videos I am creating in format mpeg1 to post
    on a website are not more than 4 minutes (or if more I would split them) and
    I don't mind if people want to download them on their hard drive...

    apparently, the few mac users would see them but their Quick Time player on
    that they should all have on their machine, right, so should I get QT pro to
    be able to encode my mpeg files in a special format and what would be that
    format ? or should I embed my video clips in .mpeg and give 2 links on my
    website, one for playing with Windows Media Player and another one for
    playing with Quick Time Player ?

    and what about the Real Player that I have seen as an option on a few
    websites, please ?...

    I appreciate further advice,

    Patrice Panis, Dec 24, 2004
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  2. Cool. since 4 minutes seems to be the approximate attention span of
    internet users ;-)
    More or less, yes. Quicktime is seen as an apple-native format, so
    most people with Macs will have it on there. PC users will have to
    optionally download it, I can't think of many things apart from
    magazine cover disks where it gets installed for them.
    Well if you're using Quicktime, and you can assume that users are more
    or less up to date with their version (they'll get nagged by the
    player so many will be) then you can use MPEG4, stored as a .mov file
    format, which browsers will just pass to quicktime.

    Or you can compress just as quicktime .mov files with a little more
    control over the compression level. Either way you'll need to spring
    for quicktime pro at about $25 to do the encoding, but it'll prolly
    come in handy for more than just this project.

    That'll get you a lot better compression than MPEG1. Real player also
    plays MPEG4 files so you may be able to save it as .mpg and hope the
    user has one of the 2 recent players.
    You could do that instead. MP4 and WM9 give approximatelty the same
    degree of compression so it's your call, depends how much storage
    space you have on your web host.

    Cheers - Neil
    Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media], Dec 24, 2004
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  3. Of course, Windows Media Player is available for Mac. I use
    WMV exclusively at work and everyone is quite pleased with it.
    I also use it exclusively for a community organization project
    and haven't heard from anyone who said they couldn't play them.....
    Richard Crowley, Dec 24, 2004
  4. Well you're the first person I've heard say that. Everybody else (me i
    included) thinks it's a dogs dinner ;-p

    Apart from major problems scripting the player when used in a web
    page, it is unsupported and only permits the old DRM level 3 which is
    way back from what people are selling cd content online in now. Also
    the codecs are well out of date, so there's no support for the
    majority of recent codecs. It also runs slowly and is a resource hog.
    WMP it potentially useful for PC users, where about 80-90% of them
    will be running windows. Until this week, WMP comes bundled with
    windows, and gets updated from the windowsupdate site.

    You can expect this level to fall as the EU antitrust requirements
    kick in.

    Cheers - Neil
    Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media], Dec 24, 2004
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