Freestyle admits Arista = Ilford

Discussion in 'Darkroom Developing and Printing' started by chrisplatt, Aug 9, 2005.

  1. chrisplatt

    chrisplatt Guest

    I received an interesting email from Freestyle today,
    They state outright that their Arista line of films and papers is made
    by Ilford, and identical to the current Ilford line.

    They appear to be selling off the last of the Arista branded stuff; it
    is cheaper than their Ilford, so check it out:

    http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_main.php

    Excelsior, you fatheads!
    -Chris-
     
    chrisplatt, Aug 9, 2005
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  2. Probably in an effort to appease the new Ilford management.
     
    Gregory Blank, Aug 9, 2005
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    chrisplatt Guest

    To clarify, the preceding post applies only to Freestyle's Arista line.
    Arista II, Arista EDU and Arista PRO products *ARE NOT* manufactured by
    Ilford.

    Chris
     
    chrisplatt, Aug 9, 2005
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    Nick Zentena Guest


    They've dumped Ilford for Kentmere paper and somebody else for film. They
    dumped Forte for Foma.

    Nick
     
    Nick Zentena, Aug 9, 2005
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  5. It was never much of a secret that Arista film was made by
    Ilford. Arista paper was not. I am pretty sure it was
    Kentmere but don't know for certain. Ilford has decided not
    to sell it regular products for rebranding so current Arista
    film is not made by them. Actually, I think there are at
    least two and maybe three suppliers. Currently, Freestyle
    sells about three makes of papers under the general Arista
    name. Some is Kentmere, and is good stuff, I've been using
    it. Some is made in Czeckoslovakia, some in Hungary.
    Freestyle still caters to the 'wet' photographer although a
    large part of the Hollywood store is made over to digital.
    At least its not pushed into a corner as it is at Calumet.
    Kentmere, BTW, is a very old English company. Freestyle
    carries Kentmere paper both under its house brand and as
    Kentmere. Kentmere is privately held so has had an easier
    time adjusting to the shrinking market, they are likely to
    remain in business for some time.
    Ilford papers are among the most expensive but they are
    trying hard to maintain a line for us traditional
    photographers and I think should be supported.
     
    Richard Knoppow, Aug 9, 2005
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  6. I seem to believe Freestyle sells more B&W photo paper than B&H.
     
    Gregory Blank, Aug 9, 2005
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    Mike Guest


    Arista claims that some papers were Ilford. here is a copy of the email:

    The Secret Is Out! Arista Brand Film and Paper was manufactured by Ilford/
    We knew that educators and students needed to get the best value for their money, and Ilford knew it too.
    That's why Freestyle and Ilford teamed together to bring top-quality products to teachers and schools at
    terrific prices. Due to contractual obligations, we could not disclose the manufacturer as Ilford, but now
    the secret is out and all remaining Arista black and white products are available at their original prices
    until sold out. If you prefer to pay more for the branded product....fine, but if you want the SAME PRODUCT
    for less, then Arista is your BEST VALUE! But Hurry... It is only available while supplies last!
    Arista Classic Graded FB | is Ilford Galerie FB
    As low as $16.99
    Arista Classic VC FB | is Ilford Multigrade IV-VC FB
    As low as $14.99
    Arista Graded RC | is Ilford Ilfospeed RC
    As low as $12.99
    Arista Premium RC VC | is Ilford Multigrade MG-IV RC DeLuxe
    As low as $10.99
    Arista Plus RC VC | is Ilford MG RC Cooltone
    As low as $10.99
    Arista Pro 50 | is Ilford Pan F Plus
    As low as $1.89 on 20 more
    Arista Pro 125 | is Ilford FP4 Plus
    As low as $24.99
    Arista Pro 400 | is Ilford HP5 Plus
    As low as $14.99
    Arista D-Max 100 | is Ilford Delta 100
    As low as $2.49 on 20 or more
    Arista D-Max 400 | is Ilford Delta 400
    As low as $2.59 on 20 or more
    Unsubscribe
     
    Mike, Aug 9, 2005
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    John Guest

    Scott Griswold was a big fan of Arista Classic. He stated that he was
    told it was Galerie by an employee at Freestyle. He started using
    while settling a lawsuit with Kodak. Part of their settlement was a
    truck load of Elite. He seemed to prefer the Arista Classic to Elite.
     
    John, Aug 10, 2005
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  9. My interpretation:

    o Freestyle had Ilford supply private label product. Under the
    agreement they could not say it was Ilford - otherwise Arista
    would cut into Ilford branded product.

    o Ilford will no longer supply private label, breaking
    the contract with Freestyle: Ilford doesn't supply Arista
    & and Freestyle doesn't have to keep schtum.

    o Freestyle has a heap of Ilford [er Arista] stuff to sell

    o Freestyle 'rebrands' [not the right word, but can't
    think of one] Arista as Ilford in order to sell off the old stock
    quickly.
     
    Nicholas O. Lindan, Aug 10, 2005
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    Thom Guest

    what secret? the guy behind the counter told me it was Ilford in 1988
    THOM
     
    Thom, Aug 11, 2005
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