frickin' ARGH! No more SX-70 film

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by nathantw, Feb 10, 2006.

  1. nathantw

    nathantw Guest

    ARGH! No more manipulations... and we can't stick the film in the
    freezer so we can't have a lifetime supply of the film.

    http://www.polaroid.com/sx70/

    Please be advised that Polaroid will be discontinuing the manufacture
    of its SX-70 / Time-Zero film within the first 3 months of 2006 due to
    the phasing out of components used in the production of this film.

    We realise that this is disappointing news for our loyal SX-70 users
    and we would like to underline that, although the circumstances made it
    inevitable, it was not an easy decision.

    We are very sorry for the inconvenience.

    For customers who would like to continue using their SX-70 camera, we
    can offer some film alternatives below. However, we do appreciate that
    these films do not offer the same characteristics as SX-70 / Time-Zero
    film.
     
    nathantw, Feb 10, 2006
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    Colyn Guest

    Try Fujifilm.

    They make polaroid instant film.
     
    Colyn, Feb 10, 2006
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    Beach Bum Guest

    They're discontinuing a lot of films this year.
     
    Beach Bum, Feb 10, 2006
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    Tony Polson Guest


    Your post is slightly misleading. SX-70 film is being discontinued,
    but Polaroid will continue to offer two types of film that are
    compatible with Polaroid cameras that take SX-70 film.

    Polaroid film was always a niche market. Now film is itself a niche
    market, and Polaroid SX-70 has a very small specialist niche within
    that niche. Given that situation, you should perhaps be celebrating
    the fact that Polaroid still offers a choice of two films for your
    camera.
     
    Tony Polson, Feb 10, 2006
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    Gordon Moat Guest

    Except the compatibility requires modifying the camera. You can place an
    ND filter material over the exposure sensor in the camera, then you the
    higher ISO films they make for their other instant cameras.

    It was mostly going to the art community in recent years. They nearly
    warned people on SX-70 films about a year ago when they changed
    formulation of a batch, and many found that it could not be manipulated.
    Then the bad batch seemed to sell out, and now we have the
    discontinuation notice.

    Oh well . . . I mostly do the other forms of Polaroid manipulation, so
    not a big deal. I do have an SX-70 camera, which happens to be the only
    autofocus camera I use. Still not sure if I will ever modify it.
     
    Gordon Moat, Feb 11, 2006
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    ajuk.uk Guest

    Are Polaroid basicly killing of an art for?

    I am new to photography and I had thought about trying it, so I am sad
    to see it go, I would have thought that sales of SX-70 would have
    remaind strong as I see so many people going on about it.

    As for polaroid in general, It is in decline, but Polaroids are instand
    print cameras, there will probably always be people who need prints
    there and then, no?
     
    ajuk.uk, Feb 11, 2006
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    Tony Polson Guest


    That is a trivially small price to pay for being able to continue
    using the camera.

    The alternative is not to make the trivial modification, then the
    camera is useful only as an ornament.
     
    Tony Polson, Feb 11, 2006
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    hassy_user Guest

    Actually you have to *remove* the ND filter over the meter, and still
    crank the exposure comp. There are some instructions out there for
    changing a few capacitors to permanently change the metering if you're
    willing to disassemble your camera.
     
    hassy_user, Feb 11, 2006
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  9. nathantw

    Gordon Moat Guest

    I guess killing off an art form is one way to look at it. There is a
    process called water graphs possible with there 600 instant films,
    though that is very different than SX-70 film manipulation.

    These are very popular, or were, on EBAY. The cameras can still work
    with 600 instant film, but require a modification to alter the light
    meter reading. Just a guess, but they probably sell a ton more of the
    other instant films, especially to law enforcement, insurance, and
    construction organizations.
    I still see an appeal to using Polaroid instant films. They are just so
    simple, and probably a very cool basic fun system. Push a button and get
    a print, even at a somewhat reasonable cost.

    The other Polaroid realm has actually seen a recent expansion of sales
    from Fuji, that being the peel apart films. I think those will
    consolidate a little, with probably just one or two colour choices, and
    a few B/W choices. Some professionals still use these for proofing, or
    checking lighting, or in fashion photography. There are some more
    interesting manipulations and fine art approaches with peel apart films;
    this is most of the Polaroid stuff I do and exhibit.

    You can see more Polaroid creative work at:

    <http://www.polaroid.com/creative/index.jsp?PRDREG=null>

    I should mention that while I have tried some of this with the Fuji peel
    apart films, I have yet to find good and consistent methods. Part of
    that I think is down to subtle differences in the way the Fuji instant
    films are produced.
     
    Gordon Moat, Feb 11, 2006
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    Gordon Moat Guest

    I am still thinking about it. I have only used my SX-70 for creative
    work, or for fun at events. At the point when I can no longer buy SX-70
    film anywhere, then I will make a decision.
     
    Gordon Moat, Feb 11, 2006
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    Gordon Moat Guest

    I have lots of websites bookmarked for Polaroid items, but I have never
    seen a capacitor change trick. I am quite good with soldering and
    electronics, so this sounds more appealing to me. Google is such a piece
    of crap now with so many ads coming up in searches that I found nothing
    in the first 100 hits; if you have a link to the changes, it would be
    very appreciated.

    Thanks!

    Gordon Moat
    A G Studio
    <http://www.allgstudio.com>
     
    Gordon Moat, Feb 11, 2006
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    nathantw Guest

    http://www.polaroid.com/global/prin...4488338439&bmUID=1139691894177&bmLocale=en_US

    SX-70 Manipulation Issues
    It has recently been brought to our attention that, due to a change in
    manufacturing process, current supplies of Time-Zero film no longer have the
    ability to be "manipulated" for Creative purposes. This is an unintended -
    and unanticipated - consequence of a process change. We understand the
    passion that the artistic community has for the Creative Uses technique, and
    want to assure you that we are taking this situation very seriously.

    We are currently working on possible solutions, though we cannot promise a
    replacement product. We are very sorry for this situation, and again, are
    treating it with the utmost urgency. We will post further updates on this
    site as they become available. If you have further questions, please call
    our Technical Assistance group @ 1.800.225.1618.

    New Update: Please check www.polaroid.com/sx70 for information on Time-Zero
    film.
     
    nathantw, Feb 11, 2006
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    John Guest

    Shoot ! Just get a 5X7 and make contact prints onto platinum paper,
    hand color with Marshalls and be done with it !

    ==
    John - Photographer & Webmaster
    www.puresilver.org - www.xs750.net
     
    John, Feb 11, 2006
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    ajuk.uk Guest

    Well if they can come up with a viable alternative that would be nice.
     
    ajuk.uk, Feb 12, 2006
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  15. I don't understand why there would be a single capacitor in a light meter.
    They are all DC-connected, with no time-dependent components.

    -- Lassi
     
    Lassi Hippeläinen, Feb 12, 2006
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    hassy_user Guest

    hassy_user, Feb 12, 2006
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    Gordon Moat Guest

    Okay, found the text description in the FAQ section. Certainly does not
    sound like a simple modification. I took a text clipping of that for
    future reference, just in case I might want to try it some time in the
    future.

    Thanks!

    Gordon Moat
    A G Studio
    <http://www.allgstudio.com>
     
    Gordon Moat, Feb 12, 2006
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