Frontier at Harvey Normans

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by Scott Howard, Nov 29, 2003.

  1. Scott Howard

    Scott Howard Guest

    Well it seems that Harvey Norman and Fuji have jumped into bed together,
    and a number of Harvey Norman stores now have their own Frontier machines,
    doing both film and digital prints.

    All done via one of the Fuji kiosk machines, so you can either do it
    yourself, or get them to help. It seems to have all of the usual image
    manipulation stuff you'd expect (crop/resize/B&W/levels/etc) but I
    didn't play with that part.

    Prices are :
    6x4 75 cents, dropping in quanties to I think 45 cents, but they have
    an introductory price of 45 cents for all
    6x8 $2.95
    8x10 $6.95
    10x12 $8.95 (i think)

    The only real problem with the system seems to be if you want matte prints.
    The Chatswood Chase shop was out of Matte paper, and said they wouldnt
    have any more for about 2 weeks. The "Harvey Norman Express" shop in the
    Chatswood mall had no idea what "Matte" was, but when I said the opposite
    of Gloss he worked out I wanted "Lustre".
    Only problem is that there's no way to select from the Kiosk if you want
    gloss or lustre - it's just a matter of which paper is in the machine at
    the time. Given I was the only person in the shop this worked fine, he
    just put the lustre paper in before I submitted the photos, but if there
    was a queue I'm not sure exactly how this would work.

    Printing time was a few minutes from start to finish, with the only real
    delay being the time to switch the machine from the 8x10 paper to the
    6x4/6x8 paper (I had a few of each).

    Quality is.. well.. it's Frontier - nuff said?

    All up, quite impressive. Two 8x10s, one 6x8 and six 6x4's for $19.55 in
    less than 15 minutes. Twenty metres around the corner at Flethers the
    same would have cost me almost $40, and taken somewhere between 24 and
    48 hours.

    Scott

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    Scott Howard, Nov 29, 2003
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  2. You mustn't have seen my thread about my recent Frontier experience. :-(

    Russell
    potd.com.au
     
    AU Digital Photo Of The Day, Nov 29, 2003
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  3. perhaps he did. perhaps the guys at hardlynormal were trained better,
    and knew how to operate their snazzy piece of machinery. and perhaps
    your frontier lab is giving better results these days.

    Don't blame the technology when the fault is often the monkey at the
    keyboard.
     
    Andrew Hennell, Nov 29, 2003
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  4. All true, but the fact that the Frontier only accepts sRGB images is still a
    bit of a downer! :-(
     
    AU Digital Photo Of The Day, Nov 29, 2003
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  5. my F90x only accepts 35mm filmstock - that's a bit of a downer.

    I still yearn for medium format... might just take the MF plunge at
    the same time I pick up my D100 to replace the 90.
     
    Andrew Hennell, Nov 29, 2003
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  6. or you could jump ship and get a 1Ds and have medium format quality in a
    35mm body :)
     
    AU Digital Photo Of The Day, Nov 29, 2003
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  7. Scott Howard

    k Guest

    ...but not MF dof ;-) ;-)

    k
     
    k, Nov 29, 2003
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  8. Scott Howard

    Cameron Guest

    Or he could wait a month or two and go for the D2X? (Considering his nikon
    lens investment)
     
    Cameron, Nov 29, 2003
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  9. Lustre is what most people think is 'Matte'. You can also get matte
    processing paper but I have only seen it used it 8x10.
     
    David in Perth, Nov 29, 2003
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  10. You mean get APS format quality in a 35mm digital.

    Medium format leaves it all for dead.
     
    David in Perth, Nov 29, 2003
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  11. Scott Howard

    Wiz Guest

    Why buy a Nikon when you can have a 10D just like everyone else on the NG :)
     
    Wiz, Nov 29, 2003
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  12. Scott Howard

    Scott Howard Guest

    I'm aware of this, but try finding me a worthwhile minilab operator who
    doesn't know what someone wants when they ask for "matte"...

    Scott
     
    Scott Howard, Nov 29, 2003
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  13. On that we will have to disagree :)

    (....Having used both)
     
    AU Digital Photo Of The Day, Nov 29, 2003
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  14. A month or two? ... Cool!! What are they about to release, specs wise?
     
    AU Digital Photo Of The Day, Nov 29, 2003
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  15. Scott Howard

    Cameron Guest

    Strewth, that's a bit harsh! A full-frame sensor that gives a file about
    34Mb and you call that APS format quality....?
    Maybe MF is better in some respects, but leaving it for dead? You could say
    exactly the opposite, that 1Ds is better that MF, and you would also be
    correct. The fact that you can preview the files, instant usability, cost
    savings on film and processing.... the list goes on.
    Would be nice to ask the thousands of wedding and portrait shooters who have
    ditched their RB's, Blads, Bronica's and Rollei's for 1Ds's if they
    considered that MF leaves the 1Ds for dead? I know a few guys who have gone
    down this road in the past 6 months and their view is a LOT different to
    yours....
     
    Cameron, Nov 30, 2003
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  16. Scott Howard

    greengrass Guest

    Sure it is, if convenience and long term cost savings are more important
    than the quality of the product you present to the client.


    and you would also be
    1Ds's ? WTF?
    if they
    You know "a few guys" so why speculate on what "thousands" think. Yes,
    it might be good to ask the rest of the "thousands". You might even find
    that many haven't ditched their MF gear at all, and use their 1Ds's or
    whatever for less critical assignments where the extra quality from
    their RBs would be overkill.
     
    greengrass, Nov 30, 2003
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  17. Scott Howard

    Cameron Guest

    Wouldn't that depend upon the product that the client requires? I still
    shoot team posters on an RB but if I was still shooting weddings or
    portraits I wouldn't hesitate to go for a 1Ds. Same goes for commercial
    work A3 or smaller... I shoot a lot of commercial / corporate work on a
    D100 and now a D2H and there is no problem with quality. However, I
    wouldn't hesitate to pull out the RB for shots that require MF film
    filesizes or resolution. (aerials are a classic example).
    Because I browse a wedding photography forum (with A LOT of paid
    subscribers) quite a bit and it seems as though all of them have gone or are
    moving to digital along with most of the photographers in my city. I
    shouldn't have said "ditched" their MF gear, just sat it in the back of the
    cupboard.
     
    Cameron, Nov 30, 2003
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  18. Same reason I don't think of McDonalds as food, yet thousands of
    others do.
     
    Andrew Hennell, Nov 30, 2003
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  19. Scott Howard

    Cameron Guest

     
    Cameron, Nov 30, 2003
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  20. Not me! Tastes like cardboard that crap! :)
     
    AU Digital Photo Of The Day, Nov 30, 2003
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