Fry's Advertisement 10MP digial camera for 147.00?

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by John Decker, Mar 18, 2007.

  1. John Decker

    John Decker Guest

    Perhaps someone could help me evaluate this recent newpaper advertisement by
    Fry's electronics about an ASM Emprex 10MP digital camera. This digital camera
    is touted as having 10MPs, 3X Optical Zoom, 2.5 LCD Display, and 15 Scene Mode.
    Fry's also includes a 1GB memory card with the purchase price $147.00 I know
    very little about digital cameras and have some questions about this camera that
    perhaps someone can answer.


    1) What are the pros & cons of this 10MP ASM Exprex digital camera compared with
    more expensive 10MP brands such as Sony and Canon.

    2) Is this a good buy for $147.00 with a 1GB memory card included with the
    purchase of this camera. It seems to good to be true.

    Any help or advice would be appreciated.


    JD


    http://www.netaffilia.com/ad/electronics/frys/i/2007/03/16/23500.html

    http://www.emprex.com02_products_02.php?id=190&PHPSESSID=7e7e7ebae0d90a4f8d4b67bcb85472dd
     
    John Decker, Mar 18, 2007
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    Pete D Guest

    John,

    If I made a list of all the digital cameras in the world in order from best
    to worst with the best at the top I would think that this one will be very
    close to the bottom.
     
    Pete D, Mar 18, 2007
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    cgiorgio Guest

    Telling from the focal length printed on the lens it seems to have a 1/1.8"
    or 1/1.7" sensor, hinting to true 10 MPixel. Emprex is not known for
    cameras, it is a rebranded OEM camera, made by one of the big chinese
    operations, possibly Premierimage.

    Not identical but similar is their model DCA366:

    http://www.premierimage.com.tw/premiere/003/dc/003_DCA366.htm

    Their products are sold under at least a dozen different brand names.

    AA disposable alkalines are totally inadequate - so you will have to add a
    charger and NiMH cells (look for Sanyo Eneloop or other low self discharge
    type). There tends to be no after warranty service for brands like this
    (Unfortunately the same is true for some name brand products, they offer
    after warranty service but quote repairs at higher pricing than buying a
    current product).
     
    cgiorgio, Mar 18, 2007
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  4. : Perhaps someone could help me evaluate this recent newpaper
    : advertisement by Fry's electronics about an ASM Emprex 10MP digital
    : camera. This digital camera is touted as having 10MPs, 3X Optical Zoom,
    : 2.5 LCD Display, and 15 Scene Mode. Fry's also includes a 1GB memory
    : card with the purchase price $147.00 I know very little about digital
    : cameras and have some questions about this camera that perhaps someone
    : can answer.

    : 1) What are the pros & cons of this 10MP ASM Exprex digital camera
    : compared with more expensive 10MP brands such as Sony and Canon.

    : 2) Is this a good buy for $147.00 with a 1GB memory card included with
    : the purchase of this camera. It seems to good to be true.

    : Any help or advice would be appreciated.

    Remember you will get what you pay for. For a cheap "disposable" camera
    that you can slip in a pocket for those times when you see a perfect photo
    op when your good camera is at home (how often have you missed a great
    shot because you were just on the way to the grocery store, and without a
    camera). But if it gets damaged you won't be out much.

    the camera is probably made from the least expensive materials and the
    cheapest electronics. The included memory card is probably an off brand of
    an off brand (Joe's memory...manufactured in the basement of Joe's bar and
    grill).

    If you don't expect this camera to be a replacement for your good camera,
    just in addition, you'll probably be fine. This camera will not be good
    for pro portrait photography. You won't see any of these in the hands of
    the local sports photographer. But even a 2 year old with a cardboard
    disposable camera can occasionally, by pure chance, capture a "WOW" image.
    It's all in what you are expecting. Keep your expectations low and enjoy
    being pleasantly suprized when you catch that odd shaped tree silouetted
    against a beautiful sunset, when you were just going to the laundromat. :)

    IMHO

    PS. Be sure to actually have it in hand and see if it is what they are
    advertizing BEFORE you hand over your money. I can't make judgement on
    this particular item, but sometimes "too good to be true" means "we'll
    take your money, and send you a post card from Argentina". ;)

    Randy

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    Randy Berbaum
    Champaign, IL
     
    Randy Berbaum, Mar 18, 2007
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  5. A TV show I saw a long time back was reporting on a photo competition.
    The winner of the "Sports" category was a gorgeous shot of a marathon
    runner, showing the exhaustion and strain as he ran past the camera. One
    of the judges, the photo editor for a national newspaper said that if
    the photographer could turn out shots like that on a regular basis, he'd
    hire him straight off.

    It turned out a seven-year-old kid had borrowed Dad's camera to take
    pictures of the local marathon going past their garden gate. The rest of
    the roll of shots were crap, as you might expect, but one of them was
    "WOW".
    Heh. I missed a classic juxtaposition shot for that very reason a few
    weeks ago, with a rigger on the roof of a museum climbing up the north
    face of a statue of Queen Victoria to fit her with outsize sunglasses
    (part of the promotion for an art exhibition).
     
    Robert Sneddon, Mar 18, 2007
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    Bob Williams Guest

    Emprex is not a known name in Digicam circles.
    I doubt that they actually make the camera. They probably just rebrand a
    generic mass produced camera. I doubt seriously that the image quality
    would be comparable to a 4-5 MP Canon, Pentax, Olympus, Fuji, Nikon etc.

    BUT........I could be wrong!!

    Take a few flash pics in the store, put the memory card in one of their
    computers and look at the image.
    But....PLEASE don't be awed by the 10 MP feature. That can be a real
    detriment if the lens/sensor is not up to the task. (Which they probably
    are NOT)
    Bob Williams
     
    Bob Williams, Mar 18, 2007
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    cgiorgio Guest

     
    cgiorgio, Mar 18, 2007
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    cgiorgio Guest

    Sounds like good advice, but you have probably never set a foot into a Fry's
    store. Part of their competitive pricing stems from employing staff that
    does not know the least bit about their merchandise. If you are lucky there
    might be a display sample without batteries and no one to ask if you can try
    it out. The container füll of cameras that was distributed across their
    stores is probably gone by now anyway.
     
    cgiorgio, Mar 18, 2007
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    A few decades ago cameras used 35mm film (some of you old timers might
    remember those days). If you were shopping for a camera you might
    spend $15 on a Kodak Instamatic or $500 on a quality SLR. The film
    was the same, but for some reason a good SLR did a better job than the
    Instamatic.

    So now we have $147 Instamatic equivalents compared with $1000 dSLRs.

    You get what you pay for.
     
    Ray Fischer, Mar 19, 2007
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    Pete D Guest

    Actually "Instamatics" used 126 square film, I still have one in working
    order..
     
    Pete D, Mar 19, 2007
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    J. Clarke Guest

    And the 126 cartridge IIRC didn't have a pressure plate to hold the film
    flat--even with the best optics if the film isn't in a consistent
    position and flat it's difficult to achieve sharp focus. I understand
    that in 110 film the pressure plate was added, but that film was so
    small that it didn't help all that much.

    (flashing on the notion of a Frankencamera based on an 4/3 DSLR modded
    to take a 110 cartridge--yes, I am quite daft)
     
    J. Clarke, Mar 19, 2007
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    Bob Williams Guest

    Au Contraire!
    Fry's is my favorite electronics store. I haunt the place.
    They have by far, the largest assortment and best prices for computer
    related paraphernalia in San Diego.
    I find the staff quite knowledgeadle about computers and accessories.
    However, I agree with Allen re: Newegg's online prices....They are very
    good and their return policy is excellent.

    Admittedly, Fry's staff do not know much about cameras. I often lurk in
    the Camera department just to hear their sales pitch to the clueless
    customers. It takes all of my self restraint to keep from challenging
    them on some of their goofy remarks, but I resist.
    However,they are quite accommodating and I'll bet if you ask in the
    right way you could get them to put a memory card in the Emperex and
    take a picture for you.
    Bob Williams

    I do not buy digital cameras from them because their prices are not all
    that good.....(I buy Cameras from B&H.
     
    Bob Williams, Mar 20, 2007
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    John Doe Guest

    Well I just purchased a Kodak C875 for my daughter. 8mp / 5x OPTICAL
    zoom. Lots of manual overrides in the menu or full auto point and
    shoot. $145 NIB from Office Depot.

    8mp is nice, however this also comes with an extreme amount JPEG
    compression. A full "8mp" file is only ~1.25mb size ! For comparison,
    my old 3mp HP camera (c2002) produces files of ~1.10mb in size !

    That said, pictures from the Kodak do look good and there is plenty of
    resolution to spare for editing and cropping.

    The real question is this- is cost your main concern ?

    Best,

    Ross
     
    John Doe, Mar 24, 2007
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    John Turco Guest


    Hello, Pete:

    Kodak once made 110 (rectangular format) Instamatics, also.


    Cordially,
    John Turco <>
     
    John Turco, Mar 24, 2007
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