FUJI CAMERAS: Do they suck?

Discussion in 'Fuji' started by Guess who?, Dec 17, 2003.

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    Guess who? Guest

    I have heard so many bad reviews about Fuji digital cameras. Is this just
    brand bashing? I have not seen too many favorable professional reviews
    about any Fuji non-DSLR digital cameras. The prices seem to be great, so is
    that an indication that they are inferior to Canon, Olympus, and Nikon?
     
    Guess who?, Dec 17, 2003
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    Phöènix Guest

    It's the results that count.

    I have a couple of friends with A204/5 equivalents. The results are very
    impressive. I have been astounded sometimes at the crispness and depth of
    field from simple point and click usage. Something not to compromise on is
    having a decent lens and IMO the Fuji ones are very good.

    What is less good it the ease of taking quality snapshots indoors.

    Anyhaow there are plenty of consumer opinions on retails sites such as
    Amazon.

    They certainly do not suck.

    VFM as you point out is excellent. Be sure (with any camera) to look at it
    in a shop and be happy with how it feels. The Fuji feel a bit plasticky but
    appear to be very robust (from experience). Neither is it reallly pocket
    sized.

    Equivalent Olympus and Canon models cost +50%. I would certainly hope that
    this extra cash is not completely wasted but the question is whether you
    really want or need to spend it in the first place to get the results you
    want.
     
    Phöènix, Dec 17, 2003
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    R2D2 Guest

    Yes.
     
    R2D2, Dec 17, 2003
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    Stewy Guest

    No they don't, really. Fuji has been criticized for saturation coverage of
    the digicam market but they did see the writing on the wall as an exclusive
    manufacturer of film and disposable cameras - innovate or die. The other
    manufacturers had other things to rely on and so were not all that
    interested in passing savings and technology onto users - they were more
    concerned with locking you into one format (Sony, Panasonic and Kodak) so
    you'd have to keep buying of forsake a pile of $$$ if you switched brands.
    Same goes for printer companies like Epson - 'we're got your money, now
    bugger off and buy a newer Epson' seemed to be Epson's attitude to driver
    upgrades.
     
    Stewy, Dec 17, 2003
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    R2D2 Guest

    (HRosita) wrote in
    From ImagingResource:

    I found the A310's image noise to be enough higher than average that I
    think it might constitute a drawback for some users. Also, the A310 has a
    bit of trouble with the incandescent lighting that is so common in US
    households. If you're mainly looking for a camera for outdoor shooting, the
    A310's color is beautiful, and if you mainly make 4x6 prints, you may never
    see the image noise. Still, I'd like to see both factors improved before
    I'd consider recommending the A310 to people. Not a bad camera, just not a
    great one...

    From DCresouce:

    The Fuji FinePix A310 is average in almost all respects, except for image
    quality, where it's worse than average. For whatever reason, Fuji is
    overcompressing and overprocessing their images, giving them way too much
    noise, even at the 3M setting. And that's a shame, as the other important
    factors in photo quality (color, exposure) are all good. In terms of
    performance, the camera is average, and that goes for features as well --
    the A310 is point-and-shoot, with few gimmicks other than the Windows-only
    webcam ability. The plastic body and movie mode both leave much to be
    desired. The A310 isn't a bad camera, but there are several superior
    cameras available for around the same price.
     
    R2D2, Dec 17, 2003
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    R2D2 Guest

    A few more quotes from pro reviews to backup my claims that Fuji cams are
    not up to the standard as other manufacturers. You don't see Canon with
    reviews like these:


    From DCresouce:

    The Fuji FinePix S7000 is a camera with a lot of potential that was
    ultimately a let down in the image quality department. In what seems to be
    a trend lately on their cameras, Fuji is processing and compressing their
    images to death, causing higher than average noise and other digital junk.
    I can live with a little "grain" in images, but when it starts eating away
    at details, it's too much.

    From DCresource:

    Although the Fuji FinePix S5000 has a very exciting design and good feature
    set, but I think it's a little disappointing in photo quality when compared
    to the latest offerings from HP, Olympus, and Toshiba. The 3.2 Megapixel
    SuperCCD HR sensor takes good shots at its native resolution, and so-so
    shots at the 6M interpolated size. Noise levels are above-average at 3M,
    and noticeably higher at 6M. As I mentioned earlier, I recommend using 6M
    (and RAW mode if possible) only when you're making large prints. Purple
    fringing, vignetting, and blown-out highlights were seen in many photos
    that I took.
     
    R2D2, Dec 17, 2003
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  7. My Fuji S602 is great. It must be the latest generation of Fuji that has
    gone off the rails.
     
    Manfred von Richthofen, Dec 17, 2003
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    Randy Davis Guest

    Reviews tend to be written by "experts." You will get some here who will
    tell you it is a bad choice for a camera. Ask for people who have a Fuji to
    tell you why they bought it, why they like it, and how they would rate the
    quality of pictures, ease of use, etc.

    Randy Davis
     
    Randy Davis, Dec 17, 2003
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    D Stombaugh Guest

    I own a S7000 and I'm enjoying it immensely. I am an "amateur" and I have
    found that for the price, I have received my moneys worth. All the pictures
    I've taken have been crystal clear with minimal "noise" including some of
    Christmas lights taken with out flash. Many modes and options. I'm not
    looking for the "perfect digital picture" just a way to record my memories.
     
    D Stombaugh, Dec 17, 2003
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    Tom Monego Guest

    Have an old 1.3mp fuji finepix 1400, it has always given me more than what I
    expect. To the point when I got a Nikon 995 I was disapointed at the image
    quality, yes it was better than the Fuji but not 3x better. We have several
    Fuji photos hanging around the house, none from the Nikon.


    Tom
     
    Tom Monego, Dec 17, 2003
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    Phöènix Guest

    So what did you find in the same price range as the S3000 that are so much
    better value?
     
    Phöènix, Dec 17, 2003
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    Robert Guest

    I have a FinePix F601Z................I love it.

    PS I don't care what you "heard"
     
    Robert, Dec 17, 2003
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    Tim Lapin Guest

    I stopped looking at the s3000 after I realized that the type of camera in
    which I was interested was more in the s5000 range. However, one camera
    seemed to offer more value *to me* than the s3000 was the Minolta Z1. In
    fact, it compared favourably with s5000 too.

    I ultimately rejected the Z1 owing to reports of the flimsy build and weird
    design of the viewfinder switch. I confirmed that by actually playing with
    it. As well, the reports of purple fringing were enough to send me
    elsewhere.

    Other cameras include the HP 850 / 945, Toshiba PDR 700 and the Kodak
    DX6490, which is the one I will probably buy.

    The Toshiba and the HP 850 are probably the closest to the s3000 and both
    can be had for about $100.00 CDN less than the Fuji s3000.

    So, in the end, if you are faced with a $100.00 premium for a product not
    that much advanced from its competition, what would you do?
     
    Tim Lapin, Dec 17, 2003
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    Phöènix Guest

    I have taken the liberty of editing in the pricegrabber prices for the above
    which I hoped would put your comments into perspective. What is clear is
    that the prices you have been working off are very different from these.

    My interest is not too disimilar to yours. I have a general interest in what
    is available in the sub $400 with a prospective purchase in a couple of
    months time. I tend to view the Fuji range as excellent value for money
    (with flaws). I have also tended to look at Nikon, Olympus and Canon as the
    high quality competitors with Fuji as the cheaper but good quality (by
    results) alternative. The market is so huge that I feel safe in thinking of
    what I buy now as a stepping stone to something much better in a couple of
    years time.

    I agree that skipping the S3000 would be a good idea. The performance
    premium for the 6x zoom does not seem worth it. The S5000 does look a
    possible so your alternatives are well worth looking into.

    As to what I would do. Well I am in the UK and some prices here are still
    teetering on the edge of a drop (some manufacturers have dropped their price
    levels by 45% in the last year). I shall wait a couple of months to see how
    they settle in the mean time keeping my eyes on these newsgroups and forums.
     
    Phöènix, Dec 18, 2003
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