Fuji Finepix S2 and Portraits

Discussion in 'Fuji' started by Eyron, Aug 11, 2003.

  1. Eyron

    Eyron Guest

    I am testing my S2 with studio flash run off the sync. port.
    I am using my Tamron 90/2.8 macro lense.
    My meter reading when I pop the flashes is,
    shutter speed 1/125 sec. and f stop F4.8.
    Exposure is good.
    Picts. are very sharp.
    They look great but not exactly accurate.
    Color has a slight pink cast.
    I am using daylight white bal. but I have tried auto as well.
    If I adjust in photshop it seems the picts. it need some red and yellow to
    get the skin tones accurate.

    Anyone have experience with the S2 and studio portraiture?
    Why the slight pink cast?

    EEO
     
    Eyron, Aug 11, 2003
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  2. Eyron

    Bob Hatch Guest

    What Andre said. Manual white balance only.

    You can use the following for white balance:

    A piece of photo paper (from a lab) unexposed and run through the processor.
    It's a good clean white.

    A Kodak Gray Card. (only Kodak. others don't seem to have a really true gray
    color)

    A set of these cards from
    http://www.proofz.com

    These are the ones I use and I far prefer the 65 degree one.

    HTH
     
    Bob Hatch, Aug 11, 2003
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  3. Eyron

    Tesselator Guest



    Hi Bob,

    I have a question. How would that help when using a studio flash
    setup? That would work for floods or spots but flash? And if it's
    Studio it's probably pointed at a diffusion shield of some type.
    I would /think/ the best way would be to rapid strope and record
    your ballance off the umbrella surface, or pannel or whatever
    is being used for diffusion. Is this wrong?


    Also Eyron, do you have to take these through post anyway? If
    your post editing and color correction facilities are set up
    professionally and your file format is deep just keep doing
    the corrections there as I'm guessing you'll have to anyway.
    No good?

    O :)
     
    Tesselator, Aug 11, 2003
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  4. Eyron

    McLeod Guest

    If white balance is the only problem why not just shoot in raw and make your
    white balance corrections there? Same thing as doing it on the camera.
     
    McLeod, Aug 11, 2003
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  5. I think your problem is not color balance or white balance but
    oversaturation.

    The S2 seems to saturate colors more than some of the other cameras.
    Although this looks great outdoors it can look oversaturated when used
    with strobes.
    An oversaturated face looks red.

    Set COLOR to ORG (original) and set white balance to AUTO and you will
    be happy with the results.

    Also in brightsunlight I like to set the TONE to ORG for maximum
    detail in highlights and shadow.
    Set COLOR to HIGH to add a little pop.
    I then use photoshop to add contrast if needed.

    Larry
     
    Larry Miracle, Aug 11, 2003
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  6. Eyron

    Tesselator Guest

    Hey, thanks for that Bob. Yes that makes sence (today) when I
    think about it. I didn't understand that the WB would/could
    also be proformed from the exposure at strobe ignition off the
    PC Sync. For studio still shots I still do medium and large
    format film.

    O :)
     
    Tesselator, Aug 11, 2003
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  7. Eyron

    Tesselator Guest

    Hasn't it got to do with the association one makes with operations
    usually done in darkroom? Digital Darkroom work almost always has
    to be proformed anyway if it's a professional shot. I think we're
    assumming that these are for professional work. Being in a studio
    w/house flash and all...

    So if it's for work then making the time to do it right is way worth
    it. And the deeper bit depths of RAW are definatly worth working with.
     
    Tesselator, Aug 11, 2003
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  8. Eyron

    McLeod Guest

    Interesting remark at the end. You are opening it through the software
    anyway, aren't you? I think you probably don't understand the concept of
    RAW data.


    Heck, maybe you have a
    lot more time than I do to fiddle with images on the
     
    McLeod, Aug 11, 2003
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  9. Eyron

    Gymmie Bob Guest

    Some digital cameras do not have a settable white balance control but only
    presets for certain types of lighting. If those calibrations are off they
    are screwed and have to do it after.
     
    Gymmie Bob, Aug 12, 2003
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  10. Eyron

    Bob Hatch Guest

    But he was asking about a Fuji S2, not a WalMart Special.
     
    Bob Hatch, Aug 12, 2003
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  11. Eyron

    Tesselator Guest


    LOL!
     
    Tesselator, Aug 12, 2003
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  12. Eyron

    Bob Hatch Guest

    Ya your right. I just don't understand the complex concepts of digital.
     
    Bob Hatch, Aug 12, 2003
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  13. Eyron

    Eyron Guest

    Thanks guys

    I will try the man. white bal.

    Also in Raw mode does the camera not use the cameras set white balance?

    EEO
     
    Eyron, Aug 12, 2003
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  14. Eyron

    Gymmie Bob Guest

    I bought both my Fuji cameras at Target stores. Paying too much doesn't make
    the quality better.
     
    Gymmie Bob, Aug 12, 2003
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  15. Eyron

    Bob Hatch Guest

    Do you even come close to understanding the difference between an S2 and a
    $300 FinePix?
     
    Bob Hatch, Aug 12, 2003
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  16. Eyron

    Bob Hatch Guest

    That's where I screwed up. I thought it was ONE and ZERO. :)
     
    Bob Hatch, Aug 12, 2003
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  17. Eyron

    McLeod Guest

    That's what I thought.
     
    McLeod, Aug 12, 2003
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  18. Eyron

    Bob Hatch Guest

    What is it about some who when disagreed with must insult the understanding
    or intelligence of the person who disagrees with them.

    I fully understand the "concept" of RAW date. I also understand the concept
    of working with up to 6 clients a day with between 70 and 100 image each.
    These images must be shown to each client for their selection and purchase.
    To be lazy at the camera and have to spend the time to correct approximately
    350 images every damn day in order to provide the client with an image that
    "looks good" would be just plain stupid.

    I also understand the concept of getting the best image in the camera to
    start with. It's amazing the number of folks using film who will brag about
    their "spot on" exposures and have no realization that the image they see on
    the printed paper is the result of a darn good lab tech correcting their
    screwups.

    Do as you will but I will continue to expose the image correctly in the
    camera because while I understand the "concept" of RAW date I also
    understand the "concept" of correct exposure using either film and digital.
     
    Bob Hatch, Aug 12, 2003
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  19. Eyron

    Bob Hatch Guest

    Like I said, can't disagree with out insults. Too bad.
     
    Bob Hatch, Aug 12, 2003
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  20. Eyron

    Gymmie Bob Guest

    Yes, the S2 has less resolution than some -and is an old partially obsolete
    camera.
     
    Gymmie Bob, Aug 12, 2003
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