Fuji S3 announced !!!

Discussion in 'Fuji' started by -=Plane Mad=-, Feb 5, 2004.

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  1. David J. Littleboy, Feb 5, 2004
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    B.o.w.s.e.r Guest

    Geez, what a disappointment! Absolutely no compelling reason to buy this
    over lots of other 6mp cams. No full-frame, either.

    Why?
     
    B.o.w.s.e.r, Feb 5, 2004
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    gsum Guest

    As only two 35mm based DSLRs have broken the 6mp
    barrier, I wonder whether a split is developing along the
    lines of 35mm/MF with some of the 35mm manufacturers
    (notably Canon and Nikon) staying away from MF.
    If this is the case then it is very disappointing. A 20mp+ DSLR
    for reasonable money would be perfect and should be
    technically feasible in the not too distant future.
    It seems that the current aim is to produce cheaper rather than
    better dsls

    Graham
     
    gsum, Feb 5, 2004
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    Dan Sullivan Guest

    Follow the money and the volume.

    The more DSLRs out there the more lenses get sold... the more flashes get
    sold.

    Look for a $400 DSLR body to be the goal of all the cam manufacturers.

    Do ya remember the huge surge of business the Minolta AF SLR cameras brought
    to the photo business?

    Have fun, Dan Sullivan
     
    Dan Sullivan, Feb 5, 2004
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  5. Four.

    The 10.3MP SD9 and 10 which are 14MP by default Bayer standard of
    interpolation, or 28MP by Fuji's standard.
     
    George Preddy, Feb 5, 2004
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  6. George Preddy, Feb 5, 2004
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  7. Last time I checked there were only two DSLRs with a 35mm sensor and
    over 6MP - the Canon EOS-1Ds and Kodak DCS 14n; the Foveons have a
    sensor size of 20.7x13.8mm according to DPReview. On the otherhand,
    if gsum meant DSLRs in general then you can add the Canon EOS-1D Mark
    II to the list as well and at a pinch the Canon EOS-10D, Canon
    EOS-300D and (barely) the Nikon D70 and Nikon D100, maybe more.
    However, since they are silly omissions to make, I think it's fairly
    obvious he was talking about a 35mm sensor size.

    Andy
     
    Andy Blanchard, Feb 5, 2004
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    Crownfield Guest

    what a letdown.

    they did resolve the battery problem.
    vertical and horizontal shutter release is nice.

    no larger sensor,
    no faster rate.

    no interest.
     
    Crownfield, Feb 5, 2004
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    B.o.w.s.e.r Guest

    Being able to actually shoot wide angle pictures is high on my list, and
    this unit is useless for me. I need a full-frame camera or nothing.

    I'll stick with film for now.
     
    B.o.w.s.e.r, Feb 5, 2004
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    Gavin Cato Guest

    1.7x multiplier, Sigma lens mount, slow body, average sensor.
     
    Gavin Cato, Feb 5, 2004
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  11. I tend to agree. The *principle* behind the Foveon sensor is a real
    step forward. I don't have personal experience of how well they
    succeed at present but I think they are going in the right direction.
     
    James Silverton, Feb 5, 2004
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  12. Martin Francis, Feb 5, 2004
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    B.o.w.s.e.r Guest

    Thought about that, but forget it. No DX lenses for me. Too expensive for
    such a limited use item. I've got a 17-35 2.8, and really like it, and I
    want a digital that can actually use it. The Kodak is OK, but I'd like to
    see the next generation of that unit before I'd consider it. The current
    form factor is unacceptable.
     
    B.o.w.s.e.r, Feb 6, 2004
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    B.o.w.s.e.r Guest

    Even at $500, it's not for me. The lack of activity related to full-frame
    digicams is disappointing.
     
    B.o.w.s.e.r, Feb 6, 2004
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  15. More so than the lenses themselves? All the A/B comparisons I've seen have
    the 1Ds looking _better_ at the corners than the same lens does on film. Is
    12mm wide enough for you:

    http://www.pbase.com/image/24142879
    http://www.pbase.com/image/24145371
    But you're right on this point. I'd sell my grandmother to the Arabs* for an
    affordable and liftable 9MP full-frame dSLR, but the voyeurs and
    birdwatchers wouldn't take one as a gift.

    *: I used to be so jealous of Woody Allen for being able to use that line.
    Nowadays we WASPs get to use it too.

    David J. Littleboy
    Tokyo, Japan
     
    David J. Littleboy, Feb 6, 2004
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  16. True, but sensor count is what really matters. The Fovoen has the same
    number of real resolved colors as the 14n, so if you want that same
    resolution from the 14n, you have to concentrate the sensor count using a
    stronger zoom to acheive the same FOV. Conversely, you can put a wider zoom
    on the SD9 and lower the resolving power per unit image area down to the
    14n's full frame FOV.

    Bottom line: it's just a matter of lens selection if the sensor count is
    the same.

    One could make the argument than wider lenses are more expensive, but on the
    tele side of the zoom range the more dense sensor has an offsetting price
    benefit. And in all cases the smaller sensor shoots through higher quality,
    center glass.
     
    George Preddy, Feb 6, 2004
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  17. I like 1.7X better than 1.5X. Higher quality glass, more concetrated
    sensor.

    On speed the SD9 is much faster than the S3.

    And the 3.4MP SD9 has 4X the optical color resolution of the 1.5MP S3.
     
    George Preddy, Feb 6, 2004
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  18. And the biggest thing, the SD9 has a RAW mode full LCD preview.

    The Fuji DLSR is no better than a film camera in RAW mode, with its 1M pixel
    JPEG LCD preview. An unusable RAW mode is a big problem.
     
    George Preddy, Feb 6, 2004
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  19. George Preddy, Feb 6, 2004
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