Fuji Velvia RULES! ;-)

Discussion in 'Fuji' started by Matt Clara, May 11, 2006.

  1. Matt Clara

    Peter Chant Guest

    no_name wrote:

    I was refering more to the 1980's uk tv series version.
     
    Peter Chant, May 15, 2006
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  2. Matt Clara

    D Mac Guest

    There is one simple fact that separates you (Bret) from the rest of us. You
    brag about how good you are and how good your photos are and how many people
    hit your Pbase site as if it were some measure of your ability... It's not
    and no one else tries to get recognition such as you seek.

    Once in while I would take offence at you telling me my photos are crap. But
    then I look at the Gallery wall and my photos which won awards. I checked
    the sales slips for last Sunday's market this morning too and see that 27
    people who shelled out cash to buy my photos must have though differently
    than you about them. Then I look at your pbase site. If I were a competition
    judge, you'd not get even a mention for the stuff you have there.

    No imagination. Nothing to separate them from what anyone else with a
    digital camera couldn't take. Sadly Bret, you have fallen for the bait that
    most people who had trouble getting their head around photography with film
    camera have fallen for. Automation of digital cameras does not make you or
    anyone else a better photographer, just lets you produce more pictures with
    bright colours and sharper than previously edge definition - that doesn't
    mean sharp pictures, either.

    Nothing there about any understanding of light and shade. Nothing about
    anything to do with making a picture which produces emotion in the viewer.
    Pretty much sums up all your efforts, Mate.

    Not a single person posting to this thread has suggested they are a "better"
    Photographer than you (or anyone else) even though many are. Does this make
    you a better photographer than them? Absolutely not! Your obsession with
    expensive gear would be not be an issue if your photographs had changed over
    the years but you still post the same boring shit. The difference is it's
    taken with equipment only the top rated flea photographers in this world
    could justify having.

    If anyone really wanted to see your ability to come up with a photo on
    demand, they need look no further than shootin. You can't! All you can do is
    walk around with your finger on the button and get the shits when someone
    else pulls the limelight with a really unusual photo... Which - incidentally
    none of yours have ever been.

    Don't you have any galleries in your area? Why don't you go sit in one for a
    few days and try to comprehend how the "real" artists managed to understand
    lighting and perspective. Then go out and shoot some pics from what you
    learnt. Hell man, just look at some of the photos that came with your
    computer as desktop backgrounds... Anything. Just as long as it fires some
    imagination into that part of your head you hide the brain in.
     
    D Mac, May 15, 2006
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  3. Matt Clara

    Annika1980 Guest

    Yeah, I rule!
    Now who's bragging?
    Remind us again of the link that will take us to your prize-winning
    efforts.
    I'd be honored to learn from a prize-winning arteest like yourself.
    So let's go have a look then, shall we? I've submitted quite a few
    entries .... have you?
    Here was a recent one of mine which many people liked:
    http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/59462413
    Where are your submissions, Master?
     
    Annika1980, May 16, 2006
  4. Matt Clara

    Annika1980 Guest

    If anyone really wanted to see your ability to come up with a photo on
    Hey D-Mac, I see that Al has chosen my mandate for the current
    Shoot-In.

    "The Unseen."
    "Take a photo concentrating on what is not seen in the image rather
    than what is."

    So maybe you could post all of your prize-winning photos?
    I mean, since nobody has ever seen them and all.
    BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA !!!!
     
    Annika1980, May 16, 2006
  5. Matt Clara

    D Mac Guest

    So here's the invite troll.
    Shell out for the fare to Aussie land and you too can visit my gallery and
    see 'em all!

    Lots of unseen stuff in your pics mate!
     
    D Mac, May 16, 2006
  6. Matt Clara

    Rob Novak Guest

    The 20D with good glass will be sharper, perhaps with better color,
    and have greater enlargement/crop potential. You can put a longer
    lens on the 20D. That's all you can say. To say any more confuses
    technical specs with the vision and skill of the photographer. Lousy
    composition, poor visualization, and limited use of light with a 20D
    vs. the Kodak means a sharper, bland picture. Perhaps in closeup.

    And yet, daily I see examples where people have taken a $17 plastic
    toy camera with light leaks, a sloppy mechanical shutter, a shitty
    acrylic lens that vignettes, distorts, with the world's lousiest edge
    sharpness, and produced images with a $2 roll of film that excite the
    eye and engage the brain.

    Meanwhile, you have thousands in gear and produce snap after snap of
    flatly-lit, heavily cropped, safe stuff. Landscapes without
    foreground interest. Rarely shooting people any closer than a medium
    shot. Technically well exposed and in sharp focus, which is a point of
    pride to the exclusion of almost all else. Mostly boring as hell.
    Great - whoopee for technical achievement.

    Light. Shadow. Filtration, and what it does for you. Filling the
    frame with people, which lends intimacy, as opposed to medium- and
    longer shots which distance the viewer from the subject. Placing
    elements in the foreground of a wide-angle landscape for perspective
    and a leading line. Emotion, which you capture best in your shots of
    Jewel ("The Leader" and "Tree Hugger" are excellent photos). These
    make great images. Not an "L" lens, not a fancy body with
    sophisticated software, not a higher-resolution sensor.

    Oh, and even the tiniest amount of humility. That works wonders. If
    your photo's good, you won't have to tell us. We'll know.
     
    Rob Novak, May 16, 2006
  7. Matt Clara

    That_Rich Guest

    Spamika1980 gets a spankin.

    RP©
     
    That_Rich, May 16, 2006
  8. Matt Clara

    Annika1980 Guest

    Finally! Some excellent constructive criticism! Thank you!
    Well I have to tell you where they are, don't I?
     
    Annika1980, May 16, 2006
  9. Matt Clara

    Annika1980 Guest

    The bottom line is this: better gear with better capabilities will help
    Hell yes, just about every time.
    After the initial period of elation comes sadness.
    I look back at all my previous pics and wonder what might have been if
    I'd upgraded sooner.
    The first time I went to Hawaii I took the 2.1MP Kodak, a Minolta
    SRT-101, and two digital camcorders.
    Got some decent video at least.
     
    Annika1980, May 16, 2006
  10. Matt Clara

    Annika1980 Guest

    So maybe you could post all of your prize-winning photos?
    Why not just post them for all of us to enjoy?
    I'll bet I know why.
     
    Annika1980, May 16, 2006
  11. Matt Clara

    DD Guest

    Not really. You can make the image yourself, in your mind, which is what
    many great photographers have done over the years, and they then go and
    re-create what they have "seen" in their minds with a recording device.
    Case in point, Helmut Newton.

    No camera can emulate creative vision.
    All I know about golf is that its an excuse used by absentee husbands
    and fathers to wander around pointlessly with their chests puffed up and
    their minds full of meaningless hogwash.
    So if you take a picture of a brick wall with your 20D and you then take
    the same picture of a brick wall with your Kodak. Who cares if one is
    sharper than the other? You still only have pictures of a brick wall.

    Along comes Mary. She has a different camera, lesser than your 20D, but
    she takes a picture of the brick wall from a more interesting angle. Who
    has the better picture?
    Seeing as you are using sports as analogies, have you ever read Lance
    Armstrongs first book? It's called, "It's not about the bike." Think
    about that for a moment or two.
     
    DD, May 16, 2006
  12. All I know about golf is that its an excuse used by absentee husbands
    Two guys were playing golf when a funeral procession goes by on the road
    fronting the fairway, One guy takes off his hat, and bows his head for about
    10 seconds. The other guy says, "Gee Frank. - I wasn't aware that you had so
    much respect for the dead." The first guy says, "Well, its the least I can
    do. - After all, we were married for 30 years...."
     
    William Graham, May 16, 2006
  13. Matt Clara

    DD Guest

    Two old guys are pushing their carts around Walmart when they collide.
    The first old guy says to the second guy, "Sorry about that. I'm looking
    for my wife, and I guess I wasn't paying attention to where I was
    going."
    The second old guy says, "That's OK. It's a coincidence. I'm looking for
    my wife, too. I can't find her and I'm getting a little desperate."
    The first old guy says, "Well, maybe we can help each other. What does
    your wife look like?"
    The second old guy says, "Well, she is 35 yrs old, tall, with red
    hair,blue eyes, long legs, big busted, and is wearing short shorts. What
    does your wife look like?"
    The first old guy says, "Who gives a shit--- let's just look for yours.
     
    DD, May 16, 2006
  14. Thanks. One of the few jokes I recall my Dad telling, and he died over
    35 years ago.
     
    John McWilliams, May 16, 2006
  15. Matt Clara

    Annika1980 Guest

    Seeing as you are using sports as analogies, have you ever read Lance
    And yet he uses the most high-tech gear he can get. Think about that.
    Put Lance on my old one speed and let me ride on his bike. I'll blow
    his doors off (and probably his bike's tires as well).
     
    Annika1980, May 16, 2006
  16. Matt Clara

    That_Rich Guest

    Not.

    RP©
     
    That_Rich, May 16, 2006
  17. Matt Clara

    Randy Howard Guest

    Annika1980 wrote
    (in article
    I've got $10,000 that says that won't happen. You can both try
    one of the major climbs in the Alps. You won't make it half a
    mile.
     
    Randy Howard, May 16, 2006
  18. Matt Clara

    no_name Guest

    Well, I never saw the 1980's tv series. I remember the movie being one
    of those old Hammer films from England; the ones my parents weren't too
    thrilled about me seeing.
     
    no_name, May 16, 2006
  19. Matt Clara

    D Mac Guest

    That's a very interesting presumption. It is totally wrong of course.
    About 40 years ago I raced Motocross bikes and there was this guy who's
    father owned a bike shop and had the Bultaco franchise. I was stuck with a
    few modified Japanese bikes. I did pretty well until it came to a shoot out
    with this guy. He blew me away in pure acceleration as well as his bike's
    handled better in the mud than mine... Or so I thought.

    OK. so I remarked to him after he'd won the Championship and made me look
    like a dork that if I had his bikes I'd be able to do the same to him.
    Bugger me if he didn't offer to swap for the next meeting. We exchanged
    bikes on the spot. His 250cc bike didn't seem to have the power mine had. It
    slipped all over the place in the mud and pretty much had me wanting mine
    back.

    At the next meet, he buried me. The simple fact is that some people have it
    and some don't. His bike was slower than mine, it handled worse than mine
    and it was harder to slide under brakes than mine yet this guy managed to
    make it sing in a way no one else ever could.

    The concept that you Bret, will be a better (insert whatever it is here) by
    having more expensive equipment is lost when you haven't yet accepted that
    although your equipment might have limits ...if you really were any good at
    what you do with it, you won't have any limits when you use it.

    Douglas
     
    D Mac, May 16, 2006
  20. Matt Clara

    Annika1980 Guest

    I've got $10,000 that says that won't happen.

    Well if you've got that much spare cheese layin around, howz about
    buying me a 1DsMKII?
     
    Annika1980, May 16, 2006
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