Going from 35mm to Slide....

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Ben W, Jan 22, 2004.

  1. Ben W

    Ben W Guest

    I am a intermediate/beginner (self assesed!).. and would like to try taking
    some portrait photos for a friend.

    The photos will be baby shots, and I have read that using ISO 1600 film,
    using natural defused light & overexposed by 1-1.5 stops would produce good
    results.

    However, I have not used slide film before and would like to know if there
    is much of a difference, in the required technical ability (with 35mm being
    a bit more forgiving). Is there anything I should read/do before making the
    trasition??

    I'm using a Canon EOS 300 - entry level SLR - with 28-90 lens.

    Many thanks
    BW
     
    Ben W, Jan 22, 2004
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  2. Ben W

    . Guest

    Pray tell who makes ISO 1600 slide film that would be good for portrature.
    And I do not understand the "with 35mm being more forgiving" more forgiving
    that what?
    Not to say that there isn't any ISO 1600 slide film out there, but why on
    earth for portrature use?
     
    ., Jan 22, 2004
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  3. Ben W

    Ben W Guest

    Was just repeating what I've read...

    - 35mm is more forgiving than slide film, when exposure metering is not
    quite correct.
    - Suggested to use 1600 film for *baby* shots - ie to give less detail & to
    take out any blemishes on the skin. Also forgot to mention it was B&W, not
    colour

    Read in Pratcical Photography.
     
    Ben W, Jan 22, 2004
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  4. Ben W

    Pupil X Guest

    - 35mm is more forgiving than slide film, when exposure metering is not

    *Print* film is more forgiving than slide film. With slide film you
    need to be more accurate with exposure.



    Films that fast will be grainy, OK if that's what you want ?

    Try Ilford XP2, ISO 400. nice tonal range. As for blemishes, I
    *think* a green filter reduces red spots. (As well as Clearasil)
     
    Pupil X, Jan 22, 2004
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  5. Ben W

    brian Guest

    1600 ISO for portraits is a bad choice, unless you want a really grainy
    print, for portraits I would stick to 100 ISO at the most. and I i'am pretty
    sure no one makes a 1600 ISO slide film anyway. I think the fastest is about
    400 ISO, I believe what you mean is that 35mm negative film is forgiving
    than slide film, you can give or take several stops and still get a good
    photo with negative, but with slide go as much as 1 stop out either way and
    you got a problem.

    Brian................
     
    brian, Jan 22, 2004
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  6. Ben W

    . Guest

    Pardon me for asking, but are you using
    English as a first or second language?
    The statement "35mm is more forgiving than slide film" means nothing in
    English.
    I would assume that your referense is to color negative film and not slide
    film at all. And if that were the case a film of 800 ISO should be jsut fine
    unless the kid is in a coal bin and you are shooting after dark.
     
    ., Jan 22, 2004
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    RSD99 Guest

    Re: "...
    I have read that using ISO 1600 film,
    using natural defused light & overexposed by 1-1.5 stops would produce good
    results.
    ...."

    Wrong! You'll probably get a very high contrast, grainy piece of "crap."

    Use an ASA / ISO 50 or ASA / ISO 100 slide film, overexpose by roughly zero to 1/3 stop,
    and use natural diffuse lighting ... and you will get *much* better results. Stick with
    the major brand professional-grade "slide" films if you can (Fuji or Kodak).
     
    RSD99, Jan 22, 2004
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    Bob Guest

    For starters, slide film is available in 35mm. Sounds like you are
    talking about positive, slide, vs negative, prints.

    I personally wouldn't use any 1600 for portraits unless I wanted the
    results, lots of grain for one. Try Kodak 400 speed Porta NC or UC

    Bob
     
    Bob, Jan 23, 2004
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  9. Ben W

    Ben W Guest

    The statement "35mm is more forgiving than slide film" means nothing in
    Sorry, that was totally correct. I meant color negative film, and not 35mm
    film...
    Yes, I'm from Tibet and I learned English from Corn Flakes packet.
     
    Ben W, Jan 23, 2004
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    Alan Kerr Guest

    or Portra 800 if you want to handhold in low light (not slide though)

    Alan
     
    Alan Kerr, Jan 23, 2004
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  11. Ben W

    Norman Worth Guest

    Slide films are quite easy to use. Most are in the medium speed (50 - 200)
    range. Two things to be careful about:

    1. Slide films have much less exposure latitude than color negative films.
    Your exposure needs to be right on. They are especially intolerant about
    overexposure.

    2. With color negative films, you correct the color in printing. You don't
    have that opportunity with slides. You need to be a bit fussy about the
    light. Daylight films need to have most of the light from either the sun or
    electronic flash. Tungsten lighting will make the image quite
    yellow-orange. Odd color reflections and casts will also show in the
    pictures.
     
    Norman Worth, Jan 23, 2004
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    Prometheus Guest

    Pardon me for asking, but are you using
    You have corn flakes in Tibet?
    From your reply I think they must have a high iron(y) content :)
     
    Prometheus, Jan 23, 2004
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    brian Guest

    Corn Flakes with Yaks milk, Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuk!!!!
     
    brian, Jan 23, 2004
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  14. Wait, most slide film (at least what I use) _IS_ 35 mm. Format vs. Film
    Type.

    --
    "Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the
    leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple
    matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
    dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no
    voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That
    is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and
    denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to
    danger." Hermann Goering, Nazi leader, at the Nuremberg Trials after World
    War II.
     
    GlidesWithEase, Jan 24, 2004
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  15. Ben W

    brian Guest

    What the f*^king hell are you talking about???
     
    brian, Jan 24, 2004
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    ivan Guest

    Run a few films through your camera, with or without a few mental or
    written notes and exposure info, use additional lighting or good
    available light, some reflectors and good humour... then just see how
    the results come out ...
     
    ivan, Jan 25, 2004
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    Alan Kerr Guest

    Corn Flakes with Yaks milk, Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuk!!!!

    fermented Yaks milk at that

    Alan
     
    Alan Kerr, Jan 27, 2004
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  18. Didn't know you could get milk from a fermented Yak ;-)

    Dennis
     
    Dennis Bradley, Jan 27, 2004
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    Ryan Guest

    Now... here's a piece of info I heard from a MASTER OF PHOTOGRAPHY [tho' i
    didn't see his certificate... anyways]. He said that, yeah, print does have
    more leverage ['zones'], but the paper doesn't. Is that true?
     
    Ryan, Jan 27, 2004
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  20. Ben W

    brian Guest

    Sure you can, Its called Baileys.


     
    brian, Jan 28, 2004
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