Going to Ireland - Safe to take the 20D?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Robbie, Aug 22, 2005.

  1. Robbie

    Robbie Guest

    This is somewhat off topic. I am going to Ireland in a few weeks, and had
    planned on taking my 20D. A friend recently warned against taking the
    camera. He said that it would mark me as a tourist and also be a high priced
    item for stealing/mugging. Bummer. He was baing his expierences on trips to
    Europe and Russia. So, I ask the group if there are creative ways to take
    the camera but not have it so obvious, short of taping over all the
    labels.Or, is the thefts more the exception to the rule than the norm?

    Thanks in advance!
     
    Robbie, Aug 22, 2005
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  2. Take a SD10, then you're save from theft.
     
    Thomas Müller, Aug 22, 2005
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  3. Robbie

    Rox-off Guest

    Your friend is crazy.

    Ireland is a tourist-friendly place.
     
    Rox-off, Aug 22, 2005
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  4. Robbie

    Jeff R Guest

    Print out little labels that read: "Pentax" and stick them on your camera.

    People will drop coins in your cap, offer you their old blankets, buy you
    hot meals and point out the best places to sleep overnight for free.
     
    Jeff R, Aug 22, 2005
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  5. Robbie

    Robbie Guest

    That is what I thought I had read somewhere.
    Thanks!
     
    Robbie, Aug 22, 2005
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  6. I've never heard of Ireland being a dangerous place. Russia, sure I
    believe the warnings regarding theft, as well with any big European city.
    To protect your belongings,
    1) remove the luggage tags when you arrive and store them inside the
    bag.
    2) for your walkabout bags, use generic looking non-luggage brands. To
    improve your security, it might be worth spending a few bucks to buy a
    locally made canvas shopping bag or whatever common thing you see locals
    carrying.
    3) when you take out your gear, be mindful of what's around you but get
    wound up about it. When you take out your camera, keep one wrap of the
    neckstrap around your wrist so it can't be yanked easily. Being rushed or
    nervous is no way to travel, and if there are any pickpockets or
    would-be-theives around, they may actually target you since you'll tend to
    be sloppy.

    As for looking like a tourist - you will look like a tourist regardless
    of the camera. (In fact, most tourists IME carry tiny P&S cameras and do
    the snapshotting thing) My advice here has nothing to do with cameras -
    observe the local mannerisms, way of speaking (loud/soft, close/distant,
    etc), and ask questions. Very few places in the world have I ever
    encountered locals who being _asked_ about their culture unless they're
    clearly busy with something else. Most will be happy to give some useful
    suggestions. Speak using proper English without fancy words and *WITHOUT
    SLANG*. Think perfect 5th grade book report language - it's not that other
    people are stupid, but there is a common form of English that is best
    understood by all. Many people who are having trouble hearing a particular
    kind of accent make things worse by talking 'down' using their local slang.

    Dave
     
    David Geesaman, Aug 22, 2005
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  7. People like to help others who they can effectively communicate with.
     
    David Geesaman, Aug 22, 2005
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    Bigguy Guest

    Ireland in general is very friendly/safe for tourists.

    However Dublin does have gangs of street urchins who will crowd you and
    steal anything they can including bags, cameras, mobiles and wallets.
    Some care is advised... keep hold of bags etc. and avoid looking slueless -
    as you would in any major city.

    Guy
     
    Bigguy, Aug 22, 2005
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  9. Robbie

    Zeke Galama Guest

    This is nonsence - someone is in sane, bullshiting you - or he hasn't been
    in Ireland.

    Ireland is a very friendly place, friendly people and very safe. It is
    probably safer to bring it than to leave it at home, almost wherever you
    live. You could even have it around your neck in the night, going between
    pubs in Dublin.
     
    Zeke Galama, Aug 22, 2005
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    Mike Warren Guest

    Although it might get broken when he falls over drunk. :)

    -Mike
     
    Mike Warren, Aug 22, 2005
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    wilt Guest

    A friend recently warned against taking the
    Rubbish. My wife and I were just in Ireland a year ago. Spent a few
    days in Dublin, then went about the rest of the country for about 10
    days. Never found a place where we ever felt uneasy about 'street
    people' and being accosted. As others have noted, any large city has
    its undesirables and tough parts, but we didn't easily blunder into
    them like you might easily do in many U.S. cities. In fact, I dare
    say Dublin feels a whole lot safer than walking downtown in a number of
    major cities in the U.S.
     
    wilt, Aug 22, 2005
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  12. Robbie

    piperut Guest

    Hi Robbie,

    I took my Canon Digital Rebel to Scotland.
    I had no problems.

    The power supply that came with the Digital Rebel is automatically
    switchable to 240 voltage. The only thing I had to do was go to Radio
    Shack and get the adapter plug for the country I was going to.

    You may want to check your user's manaual and see if the power supply
    is one of the U.S. only, (110, or 120), or if it is 110-240 voltage).

    In Scotland, nobody seemed to notice someone packing around a camera.
    Nobody even commented on it. In one pub, someone commented that we
    were Americans, because he supported America. Other then that, there
    wasn't much about it.

    Traveling around Scotland, I didn't see any areas that look really bad.
    I didn't see any areas I would be afraid of walking around in. I
    didn't see anything that looked close to the bad areas in even Salt
    Lake City, let alone Los Angeles.

    Ireland might be a bit rougher then Scotland because of the IRA.
    However, they have been dormant of late. I am not sure, but I think
    they actually might have come to terms with the Brittish Government.
    (You might have to search Google, Yahoo or Dogpile on this.)

    Anyway, if you use reasonable care you should be fine.

    roland
     
    piperut, Aug 22, 2005
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  13. piperut wrote:
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    Dublin is fine - it's a city I would return to any time. Even better now
    that there is a complete ban on smoking in public places - much more
    pleasant! Many fine photos for DSLRs and point-and-shoot!

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Aug 22, 2005
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  14. And they're all drunk over there anyway.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Aug 22, 2005
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  15. Robbie

    piperut Guest

    You know how the press is - they jump on anything negative like the IRA
    and blow it out of shape. I also forgot about the ban on smoking in
    Ireland.

    I guess they have even banned smoking in pubs!

    roland
     
    piperut, Aug 22, 2005
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  16. piperut wrote:
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    Yes, that's right.

    For once I feel happy going into pubs where I never would have before, I
    would always have been trying to dodge the smoke, and would have felt
    generally uncomfortable. What you now see is that there are small groups
    of smokers hanging about outside the pubs, and some pubs have even put a
    TV showing football for the smokers over the door!

    The one negative thing is that when you want to take advantage of the
    pleasant outdoor dining at lunchtime or early evening, you may be stuck
    with the smokers!

    Cheers,
    David
     
    David J Taylor, Aug 22, 2005
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    Brian Baird Guest

    Sweet Jesus! Me and my sinuses will have to visit.
     
    Brian Baird, Aug 22, 2005
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  18. Scotland is also enforcing a ban starting April next year. England
    sometime soon as well. Helps keep your camera cleaner!

    David
     
    David J Taylor, Aug 22, 2005
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  19. Robbie

    Brian Baird Guest

    Screw my camera, I'm more concerned with the splitting smoke-induced
    headaches I won't have to deal with.

    I have to say that when I was in London earlier in the year that the
    reputation of Brits smoking like chimneys was pretty much unfounded.
    People in DC smoke way more, and with a lot less consideration.
     
    Brian Baird, Aug 22, 2005
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    carrigman Guest

    As a 20D owner and living in Ireland I can assure you there is no danger.

    Abide by common sense rules in major cities and you'll be fine.

    Enjoy your trip.

    Carrigman
     
    carrigman, Aug 22, 2005
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