Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Annika1980, Jan 19, 2009.

  1. Annika1980

    Annika1980 Guest

    I am curious as to what settings I should have used.
    I guess I could've bumped up the exposure a bit and blown the birds
    out to a white blur.

    Listening to this idiot reminds me of a 100-shooter in golf trying to
    give tips to Tiger Woods.
    Annika1980, Jan 21, 2009
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    Annika1980 Guest

    Annika1980, Jan 21, 2009
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    Annika1980 Guest

    It is a fact that Pbase misses some of the EXIF info such as whether
    flash was used (especially off-camera flash). You've been schooled on
    this a number of times. For a long time when a 40D pic was posted
    Pbase would read the camera name as "Canon Canon EOS 40D."
    I'm not sure whether this is a Pbase bug or the fact that Canon uses
    nonstandard EXIF fields.
    Also, Pbase doesn't pick up which lens was used so I have to add that
    myself on every shot. You can thank me later.

    I am migrating to SmugMug anyway, since they have a much better
    interface and other features (like HD video). So I guess you'll have
    to change your Pbase bashing to SmugMug bashing.
    Annika1980, Jan 21, 2009
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    Gemini Guest

    Excuse me Annika,
    The 5D MkII does not record PAL mode videos. You would never see the jitters
    D-Mac talked about if you use it on an American NTSC TV but certainly in the
    UK and Australia it is an issue that anyone thinking of making high quality
    videos - TV commercials for example, needs to consider.

    The most common way to display the video from a 5D Mk II on a PAL system
    television is to drop every sixth frame. The result is the jitters with
    high quality productions. There is also the issue of broken time base
    correction if you need to splice such a video segment into a PAL standard
    production intended for broadcast.

    None of this is an issue with RED cameras or dedicated video cameras. Maybe
    as the idea of video in a SLR either matures or dies the issue will be
    solved or not. Presently you can only produce DVDs (which the players
    usually drop the 6th frame from) and American NTSC TV which is lower quality
    than PAL. without expensive editing software capable of a clean conversion
    and a repair of the time base code.

    Gemini, Jan 21, 2009
  5. Annika1980

    Gemini Guest

    Can you not use spot metering with a 5D MkII ? If you metered for the whites
    and pulled up the shadows there shouldn't be an issue with noise (according
    to an earlier post of yours).

    In fact that photo would benefit considerably from tone mapping. Ii would
    not fix the colour problems it has but it would correct several exposure
    (tonal) issues.

    I've noticed with Canon cameras in general there is a tendency to
    misrepresent white or in particularly bad cases with the APS size sensors,
    create a red cast to the entire image. That may have something to do with
    the density of the sensor and perhaps the issue is moving up-scale as the
    larger sensors increase in density.

    Gemini, Jan 21, 2009
  6. Annika1980

    Mr.T Guest

    Fair point.
    Most will still show flash used in manual modes.
    And peoples claims on Usenet :)

    Mr.T, Jan 21, 2009
  7. Annika1980

    Mr.T Guest

    Absolutely, and yes I agree.

    Mr.T, Jan 21, 2009
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    tony cooper Guest

    I hate to be the spelling police, but did you mean "stimulating" or
    "simulating"? It's very difficult to tell.
    tony cooper, Jan 21, 2009
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    Mark Thomas Guest

    Looks washed out, with an insipid cyan background. Some areas of the
    bird now show a hint of green. Keoeeit would appear to be colorblind
    or have a badly calibrated screen..
    And it *looks* like it.
    I won't be bothering investigating that one, although if history is a
    guide it is more likely to be the user at fault.
    so.. you're a bit slow with the clone tool..?

    Just for comparison - the following images are the work of the
    'photographer' calling himself Paul Parker (formerly Karl Hawkins..),
    who is of course Keoeeit, the anti-dslr-troll:


    They put Bret firmly in his place!
    Mark Thomas, Jan 22, 2009
  10. Annika1980

    Mark Thomas Guest

    Is the ear in focus?

    And when are you returning to the available light thread to apologise?
    Mark Thomas, Jan 22, 2009
  11. Annika1980

    Gemini Guest

    Rewind that will you?

    2006 when you claimed your Jewish name was by marriage and you were in fact
    a cousin of Bret Douglas, born in Tennessee and living in Canada. You also
    claimed to be in constant contact by phone with him and your sister (also in
    Chattanooga) who's messages you blindly posted without reading them as she
    dictated the wording to you.

    How many ways do you think we can take it Helen? Not as many as you can
    invent, I'll wager.

    Gemini, Jan 22, 2009
  12. Annika1980

    Gemini Guest

    From your behavior in these groups it would be reasonable to think if your
    parents had practiced contraception it would have benefited not just the
    world but this generation of Usenet readers too.

    The fact they didn't opt for an abortion after discovering their
    indiscretion on the back seat had lasting consequences only highlights your
    inherited genetic disposition and lack of brains.

    Not long ago some US states would have castrated you after discovering you
    were a genuine lunatic.. Lunatic Asylums were built for Lunatics. Mark has
    proven he is a genuine Lunatic. How did you escape detention?

    Wait until the moon is at it's darkest and read your posts of the past 4 or
    5 years. Your feverous attacks on people fester to their highest intensity
    when the moon is at it's fullest.

    You truly are a Lunatic Mark. Seek some help. There is medication available
    to help you gain control of yourself all you need to do is let go of that
    part you get so much pleasure from, long enough to take the pills.

    Gemini, Jan 22, 2009
  13. Annika1980

    Gemini Guest

    If I "fixed my date" you'd probably accuse me of being Noons.
    If I leave it as it is, you will probably accuse me of being D-Mac. That's
    fine. I'll sit back and enjoy the show.

    Gemini, Jan 22, 2009
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    D.Mac Guest

    Hey fool...
    Remember this?

    Spot metering with a 5D seemed to work OK here. But then you've always found
    Bret's but to be sweet, Haven't you? ROTFL

    D.Mac, Jan 22, 2009
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    Annika1980 Guest

    Thanks for proving me right, dipshit. Like I said, there was nothing
    out there reflecting red or pink which is the exact opposite of what
    you claimed I said, you lying sack of shit.
    Annika1980, Jan 22, 2009
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    Mark Thomas Guest

    That's a very strange way to start off, if you are denying they are
    yours... Keoeeit, nobody is fooled. It takes a seriously deluded soul
    to produce "Paul Parker", "Karl Hawkins" and the myriad of other
    sockpuppets you need, to try to pretend you have support. But I guess
    old habits die hard, hey X-man/Baumbadier?

    And it takes just twenty seconds or so for *anyone* to follow your
    hamfisted trail back to Keoeeit on Steve's Forums (who owns those
    images), and Dave Ingols/Keoeeit at DPReview, then
    X-Man/Baumbadier/Casiobear... Even without the giveaway posting errors
    and obvious clues, your attitude follows you wherever you go, and you
    deserve all the disrespect you get.

    If you are going to be a pretender, you still need some basic skills not
    to get caught out. Sadly, you don't have them, either in hiding behind
    your sockpuppets, or in photography.
    Mark Thomas, Jan 22, 2009
  17. Annika1980

    Mark Thomas Guest

    Nope. You just proved me right. Thanks.
    All I need to do are post a few random coordinates, and the *actual* RGB
    392,309 239,248,255 (G>R)
    382,309 204,206,195 (G>R>B)
    416,313 196,203,196 (G>R=B)
    533,209 244,248,251 (G>R)

    Any questions? Feel free to debate the actual data. Yes, the effect is
    subtle (obviously not your finest point), and it is hardly worth noting,
    but you claimed superiority and BLEW it.

    But thanks for playing, and taking such huge bites....

    (hint - the person who posts most text and insulting language does *not*
    Mark Thomas, Jan 22, 2009
  18. Annika1980

    Mark Thomas Guest

    Because if they did, they would be wrong.
    *You* provided the file with those exact RGB values, taken from areas
    ofg the bird that should have been neutral (or perhaps slightly
    reddish/brownish/yellowish - almost anything but green..).

    Color management doesn't come into it at that level... do you seriously
    not understand that???

    This might explain your perception difficulties.
    It seems someone else is a little misled. Back to Google, sunshine.
    Mark Thomas, Jan 22, 2009
  19. Annika1980

    Mark Thomas Guest

    OK, if you wish to be embarrassed on two threads, fine with me.

    Clueless, huh?

    Here is a cute little model of the Oval Office layout:

    It very clearly shows the window that is behind the photographer. That
    is the window that you said didn't exist, despite the clue (to all but
    the intellectually challenged) of the ray of sunlight cast across the
    desk. Despite the obvious window illumination.

    You called Alan clueless. Yet he was right and picked the situation
    accurately - certainly far better than you. So you would be....?

    So I guess I'm Alan, as well as Bret?
    Mark Thomas, Jan 22, 2009
  20. They can only do this is they know it was being used. They know that
    if the flash is connected in a way which reports itself to the camera,
    such as it being the camera's own pop up or a system flash which uses
    more than just the default trigger circuit, e.g. more than just the
    centre pin of the standard hot shoe, such as a signal voltage on the
    "flash ready" pin, or even a comms protocol through a serial
    connection. However at least some DSLRs don't report a flash connected
    in a way which uses only the default trigger circuit of a purely PC
    connection. Since modern flash trigger detection circuits, such as
    those employed by some remote radio triggers, use that connection in a
    way which would be difficult to detect, I'd be surprised if any DSLRs
    went to the lengths of bothering to detect it.

    Some cameras certainly take the attitude of "if you're not using one
    of my proper system compatible flashes I don't want to know about it",
    and their manuals give you the impression that it would be
    impossible. But the engineers often slip in such ancient
    compatibility, even if the marketeers would prefer you not to know
    that it existed.

    Can anyone report a model of DSLR which detects and reports "flash
    used" if something used only the default PC flash trigger circuit to
    operate a flash?
    Chris Malcolm, Jan 22, 2009
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