Good/easy/friendly editing software for AVCHD camcorders?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by zcarenow, Nov 3, 2008.

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    zcarenow Guest

    Any recommendations on good and friendly software for these type of
    camcorders? II heard it is very difficult and frustrating to find
    software for this type of format right now. Any good experiences from
    you guys? Thank you.
     
    zcarenow, Nov 3, 2008
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    Kill Bill Guest

    The way that I do it.. The AVCHD has to be converted into a medium type
    codec for editing and storage. I don't think anyone is editing native
    AVCHD codec.

    For example, Final Cut Pro has 'Log and Transfer', which lets you select
    the AVCHD clips, and convert them to ProRess 442 which is a great
    editing and storage CODEC.

    -bill
     
    Kill Bill, Nov 3, 2008
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    mkujbida Guest


    If it's a PC you're working on, try AVCHD Upshift ($50.00 U.S.) from
    NewBlueFX at http://www.newbluefx.com/avchd-upshift.html
    It converts AVCHD (.mts) files into high quality MPEG (.m2t) files
    that are generally much easier to edit.

    Mike
     
    mkujbida, Nov 3, 2008
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    RickMerrill Guest

    Rumor is that Womble is working on a product that will be as easy to
    use as their MVW (mpeg video wizard) - which is what I use to edit.
     
    RickMerrill, Nov 3, 2008
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    Scubajam Guest

    As mentioned by Ken, Magix 14+ will do AVCHD. Make sure you get the
    Plus version

    Another program just out that does native AVCHD is Corel/Ulead Video
    Studio X2. Both will do it all, from capture to edit, to burn DVD.
    Both have free trials. More are probably on the way.

    Jim McGauhey
    Washington State
     
    Scubajam, Nov 4, 2008
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    Smarty Guest

    As mentioned by Ken, Magix 14+ will do AVCHD. Make sure you get the
    Plus version

    Another program just out that does native AVCHD is Corel/Ulead Video
    Studio X2. Both will do it all, from capture to edit, to burn DVD.
    Both have free trials. More are probably on the way.

    Jim McGauhey
    Washington State


    Jim, et al,

    Magix 14+ for AVCHD is a huge mistake. It can neither edit native AVCHD nor
    can it make AVCHD disks. I have complained bitterly on their website and in
    email to them concerning their deceptive advertising practices. They deleted
    my web forum comments entirely rather than acknowledge the misleading claim.

    They (Magix) transcode AVCHD into some meta / proxy format before editing
    can begin, and that takes a lot of time even on my superfast quadcore 3.0
    GHz QX9650 Extreme machine. Once all the editing is done, the final result
    cannot be burned to an AVCHD disk since they only support true BluRay
    burners with BluRay media. Even when I burn these, they look poor with
    obvious transcoding artifacts.

    As I posted just yesterday in another thread, here are the AVCHD options for
    a PC presently-

    There are 7 PC programs which will author AVCHD disks:

    Ulead / Corel Movie Factory Plus
    Ulead / Corel Video Studio X2 Pro
    Nero Vision 5 (part of Nero 8 or Nero 9 package)
    Cyberlink Power Director 7 Ultimate
    ArcSoft Total Media Extreme BD
    Pinnacle Studio 12 Ultimate
    Sony Vegas 8 (without menus)

    All require a quadcore to handle AVCHD, preferable 2.4GHz or faster, like a
    6600.


    If I could keep / use / own only one, it would be Power Director 7, which
    incidentally was chosen as the best of NLEs recently by PC World in this low
    cost price range.

    I own and use Vegas, Final Cut Pro HD, and have used Avid and Canopus also,
    but these low cost programs are extremely competent for going from raw AVCHD
    camcorder output all the way to finished high definition menued AVCHD disks.

    Smarty
     
    Smarty, Nov 4, 2008
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    Smarty Guest


    Ken,

    Now I am curious and wonder what AVC H.264 codec / source you use to
    originate your content. It is entirely possible and surprising to me that
    Magix could ingest some form of AVC without this several minute conversion
    process I am encountering. If so I wonder which codec or codecs it does
    directly support. The two AVCHD sources I have used, one from a Canon and
    the other from a Sony AVCHD camcorder, both cause the program to go through
    the slow conversion process.

    AVCHD editing and disk creation is, no doubt, a very challenging format, and
    thus I agree entirely that a trial program should be used on the intended
    user PC with the specific AVCHD format to be sure all works well before
    committing. I can easily and honestly report at least a ten to one variation
    in performance from the 7 programs I previously cited when using the very
    same computer and camcorder.

    Smarty
     
    Smarty, Nov 4, 2008
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    Smarty Guest

    Thanks Ken and good to know. My AVCHD almost always comes directly from
    camcorders, and Magix 14+ just doesn't want to handle it native. It takes it
    in at glacial speed and apparently converts it into mpeg2 since this is the
    eventual authoring format it supports for creating high def disks as BluRay.

    I have to admit that I bought the upgrade purely based on the premise that
    it now "supported" AVCHD, and assumed that it (like 7 of its competitors)
    would thus both ingest AVCHD and then author AVCHD disks. It was the absense
    of AVCHD disk authoring combined with this pathetic and slow ingest process
    that just infuriated me. Thus the new version really had no benefit to me
    versus the prior version which I also own.

    Smarty
     
    Smarty, Nov 6, 2008
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