Good Idea/Bad Idea- Images for critique

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Martin Francis, Jul 28, 2003.

  1. Well, I may not send the images to Tank (yet), but these were some i'd
    planned to send:

    (link is to directory index)

    http://www.btinternet.com/~mcsalty/martin/
     
    Martin Francis, Jul 28, 2003
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  2. How to say this politely.....

    Have you considered piano lessons? Maybe your talent lies there..
     
    Michael Scarpitti, Jul 29, 2003
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  3. Martin Francis

    T P Guest


    And where, exactly, does your talent lie?

    ;-)
     
    T P, Jul 29, 2003
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  4. K the desert ones I get,
    the freezer is cool yer heels?
    and aren't those Bruno Magdli(spelling sucks) shoes in the knife pic? :)

    I got a kick out of them. (KICKS)

    --
    -Keith

    Registered Linux user #273320

    http://counter.li.org
     
    Rusty Shakleford, Jul 29, 2003
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  5. Seemingly in saying things politely.
     
    Martin Francis, Jul 29, 2003
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  6. Martin Francis

    Matt Clara Guest

    I think you need to present us a specific set of images to critique, like
    this one:
    http://www.btinternet.com/~mcsalty/martin/previews/projects/kelly.jpg
    instead of having us crawl through a series of indices guessing at what
    we're going to see.
    mc
     
    Matt Clara, Jul 29, 2003
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  7. http://www.btinternet.com/~mcsalty/martin/files

    (sorry)
     
    Martin Francis, Jul 29, 2003
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  8. Photography and writing, to name two.

    I did not say the work was bad, did I? To do really good photography,
    one must actively go after images. There's too much passivity here. No
    long shadows. No dizzying angles. No active participation in the act
    of making a photograph.
     
    Michael Scarpitti, Jul 29, 2003
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  9. Martin Francis

    Matt Clara Guest

    Let's see some then.
    Worse, you suggested he find another creative field to pursue. Way to
    encourage a student!!! You obviously don't know the meaning of constructive
    criticism, do you.
    too].

    Fear not Martin, you're in good company. He thinks Ansel Adams is _WAY_
    overrated, too. Just throw some long shadows in there and some dizzying
    angles and you'll have pleased Mr. Scarpitti.
     
    Matt Clara, Jul 29, 2003
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  10. Ask, and ye shall receive...
    http://www.btinternet.com/~mcsalty/martin/previews/wales03/carlean.jpg
    (dangling my newly-bought FM3a out of a car window moving slightly in excess
    of 70mph)
     
    Martin Francis, Jul 29, 2003
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  11. Erm, thanks (?)
    Suddenly everything is clear...
     
    Martin Francis, Jul 29, 2003
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  12. This student should be encouraged to pursue something else. Not even a
    whiff of specialness about the images.

    For the subject matter he chose, the very flat light, poor choice of
    vantage point, lack of texture, etc, are telling. Want to see MY
    slides of Italy?
     
    Michael Scarpitti, Jul 30, 2003
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  13. Martin Francis

    Matt Clara Guest

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......... Don't leave academia, ok? You fit right
    in.


    Those are cool.
     
    Matt Clara, Jul 30, 2003
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  14. Actually, I'm not an academic, and these papers are critical of the
    typical academic slovenliness.
     
    Michael Scarpitti, Jul 30, 2003
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  15. My fave is Pomponianus.
     
    Michael Scarpitti, Jul 30, 2003
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  16. Martin Francis

    Gordon Moat Guest

    Guten Morgen Martin,

    Link sometimes not available, but I got a brief look. I do think this is
    a nice start on a concept. Perhaps some more exploring might get some
    results to hone your vision.

    Anyway, when I was in college, inspiration, and direction, could
    sometimes be found in the work of others. I still find inspiration in the
    work of others, though much of the direction of my work is now client
    generated, or self generated.

    With inspiration in mind, I thought you might find something in the works
    of Jeff Mermelstein. He is part of that genre of "Street Photography",
    yet I think that is too narrow a description. His work has been profiled
    in several publications, and he has a couple books out. Take a look:

    <http://www.billcharles.com/merm/jeffmermelstein_1.htm>

    I hope some ideas generate from that, or some other source. It is tough
    to stay fresh on ideas, but a big part of developing a style. Since I
    have been stuck at home sick, I finally got going on my portfolio update.
    I have about fifty images I need to cut down to about 20 for final
    display. My web site is a mess in need of updates, but that is another
    story . . . no rest for the wicked ;-)

    Anyway, keep at it, build on some concepts. If you need to, shoot more
    film.

    Ciao!

    Gordon Moat
    Alliance Graphique Studio
    <http://www.allgstudio.com>
     
    Gordon Moat, Jul 30, 2003
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  17. That would be presumptuous on your part to say about me. I have worked
    at the professional level, and in matters of darkroom
    technique/knowledge I would say I'm far beyond most pros. I happen to
    know a lot of pros and have seen their darkroom work, so I can make
    that judgement. As far as 'putting down' anyone, I have no need for
    that. I simply suggest that Martin's talents lie elsewhere, not that
    he is a bad person or has no talent. Photograpgic talents generally
    manifest themselves right away or never. Perhpas Martin is destined to
    be great violinist or pianist.

    A glance at some of the work in these pages will be illuminating:

    http://www.leica-camera.com/kultur/links/fotografen/index_e.html
     
    Michael Scarpitti, Jul 30, 2003
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  18. Annika1980 wrote:

    And if you used a rifle rather than a camera, you might feed your family.


    --
    -Keith

    Registered Linux user #273320

    http://counter.li.org
     
    Rusty Shakleford, Jul 31, 2003
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  19. Scarpitti is full of something, that's for sure
     
    Tony Parkinson, Aug 5, 2003
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  20. You have no idea what you're talking about. I went to Italy a few
    years ago, and my pictures from that trip are of professional calibre.
     
    Michael Scarpitti, Aug 5, 2003
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