good indoor 4-5mp digital camera

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Neal, May 19, 2005.

  1. Neal

    Neal Guest

    I've finally had it with my Fuji FinePix's going on eBay.
    Pictures taken outside on bright sunny days look great, but indoor shots
    usually stink. I've taken hundreds of photos with this over the past
    couple of years on all the settings and have never been satisfied with
    shots indoors. On the setting when the lighting is right for the shot,
    you always get the "hand" on the lcd....meaning it's going to come out
    Anyways, I need a recommendation for a 4-5 mp camera (willing to spend
    up to $400) with my number one priority being the ability to take good,
    bright shots indoors. NO Fuji.....I'm leaning towards a Canon. Thanks.
    Neal, May 19, 2005
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  2. If you mean good indoor shots _without flash_, the P&S cameras can't do
    that. The cheapest camera that can would be the Canon 300D with the 50/1.8
    lens. But that's way over your budget (and if you are going to spend that
    much, you should spend a bit more and get the 350D; the 300D suggestion was
    just to minimize cost). And with either of those, you'd probably want the
    Tamron 28-75/2.8 lens. And now you're really over budget.

    You might look for the older Sony F717, since it has a fast lens. But it's
    still pretty funky at ISO 400. (The newer sensors have improved performance,
    but those improvements have all been applied to (wasted on, IMHO) making
    smaller pixels. Even the low-MP cameras use tiny sensors and tiny pixels.
    And most P&S cameras nowadays have grossly slow lenses.)

    David J. Littleboy
    Tokyo, Japan
    David J. Littleboy, May 19, 2005
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  3. Neal

    Ron Hunter Guest

    I don't think you can go wrong with a Canon, but consider that indoor
    shots with a P&S camera are always going to have a limitation. In order
    to keep the size of the camera within certain ranges, the power of the
    flash, and the distance of the flash from the lens, are limited. Since
    the flash can put out only so much light, the lens can gather only so
    much light in so much time. The longer the exposure, the greater the
    problem with blur, and the shorter the exposure, the greater the problem
    with noise. Combine those factors with high pixel count, or use of zoom
    for composition, and the result can be dark, and/or noisy pictures.

    So, IF you really want good indoor pictures, then buy a camera in the
    4-6 mp range and a socket, or 'hotshoe' for an external flash, and use
    that for indoor pictures if the internal flash doesn't do the job. Read
    the reviews regarding low light, and indoor, pictures, and select a
    model that will allow you to use external flash. Flexibility and a good
    lens are usually more important than the difference between, say 4 and 5
    And, when all is said and done, buy a good photo editor like PSE3 or PS
    CS to fix the problems you may still have with the new camera.
    Ron Hunter, May 19, 2005
  4. Before you totally dismiss fuji have you seen the F10 which has selectable
    ISO of 80-1600. I've only had mine a couple weeks but have taken some quite
    good indoor shots at 800 & 1600 ISO. There is a review & sample shots here:
    Adrian Boliston, May 19, 2005
  5. Neal

    Darrell Guest

    You wouldn't have a clue of what "works perfectly" means...
    Darrell, May 20, 2005
  6. Misinformation. It's a 1.5 megapixel camera, and might take images
    comparable to other 1.5-2 MP cameras under some conditions. Hardly
    in the same ballpark as 4 MP cameras.

    Dave Martindale, May 20, 2005
  7. Neal

    SteveB Guest

    I agree. The F10 is THE indoor low light no-flash non-DSLR small camera.
    SteveB, May 20, 2005
  8. Neal

    ASAAR Guest

    There can be no restriction on people that purchased the x530
    prior to the recall from putting samples on the web. Why were you
    prohibited from doing so unless the images the x530 creates are fair
    to poor? In any case you have an alternative. You could upload a
    few pictures to a binary newsgroup instead of placing them on the
    web. They'd expire after a few days or weeks, preventing Sigma's
    reputation from further damage after they disappear.

    I must say, though, that I find it hard to believe you're really a
    fan of Sigma products. Were I the CEO of Sigma, I'd try to have you
    abducted and put into service as a crash test dummy, for all the
    (not so) good will you're generating for the company.
    ASAAR, May 21, 2005
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