Good results with Oly 4/3rds compared to Canon EF lenses?

I've been looking at some of the work some buds have been doing
with their cameras. One has a Canon and uses the same lenses on
his digicam that he used on his 35mm fim cam. Another has an
Olympus setup with the dedicated 4/3rds digital-only lens setup.

In visually comparing them side by side, it seems like the
Olympus setup is more "precise" and consistent edge to edge vs
the Canon.

I'm wondering if others are seeing this too, and if so, is it
because the Oly lenses are specifically tailored for their CCD
while the Canon was not designed to optimize the lens to their
CCD.

I'd appreciate any helpful discussion or input. I'm not sure
which way to commit when it comes to getting a DSLR, and I'd like
to have as much good info and opinion as possible.

Thanks

 

Edge to edge...what?

There are SO many possible variables to the technique they may have used,
that this particular comparison you refer to is impossible to speculate
about without a lot more information.

 

In visually comparing them side by side, it seems like the

The finished digital image.

 

I should have asked, "consistently" what?
Focussed?
Colored?
Toned?
Noisy?

I'm not sure what it is you observed.

 

Do all canon bodies that can accept those film lenses contain
CCD's that are the same size and in the same position?

Thanks for the reply.

 

No. Canon dSLRs use Canon-manufactured _CMOS_ sensors in one of three sizes:
24 x 36 mm ("FF" or "full frame"), 19.1 x 28.7 mm ("1.3x"), and 15.1 x 22.7
mm ("1.6x").

People who have worked with film in a variety of formats (sizes) realize
that larger formats offer a tradeoff: it's harder to create good images with
a larger format camera, but when you do get a good image, you get a much
better image than a smaller format camera would have acquired.

IMHO, the same is true in digital. Maybe it's easier to shoot with a 50/2.0
lens on a 4/3 camera, but the 5D with a 100/2.0 (a larger more expensive
lens) will produce better images when you put in the extra effort.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

 

What about CA?

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You could look at the samples from both cameras at dpreview and decide for
yourself.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

 

When the sensor and lens are designed as a pair, you can get better
results.

Many of the other DSLRs are simply 35mm camera designs recycled with
modifications using lenses which were not optimised for the job. Olympus
(and the 4/3 system in general) were designed from scratch with the
special needs of silicon sensors in mind.

Having said that, image quality may not be the only factor in choosing an
SLR - camera handling and the breadth of the system components may matter,
not to mention cost.

David

 

Agree with noise, but lenses certainly have an effect on color. But I'd
guess that Mark's point is to know what the problems were with the images to
ascertain whether the camera, lens or operator were at the root of the
problem.

 

If you are talking about cropped, finished images, I'd have to say, in this
case, and without seeing examples, that the fault lies with the operator.
Oly has a stellar reputation for glass, Canon's best lenses are among the
best in the world. Since you don't say what lenses were being used, or even
what cameras, only brands, it is impossible to answer your question with any
accuracy.

 

Edge to edge...what?

I'm talking about UNCROPPED digital images initially produced by
the cameras without ANY editing being done.

 

Maybe that would seem obvious to you or me, but his description is so vague
that I wonder what he's really seeing that gives him this impression of
"better."

 

When talking about 35mm lenses used on sub-35mm sensors you are generally
correct, although there is a greater magnification from sensor to print
size if the sensor is sub-35mm, so lens defects /could/ be more visible.

DX lenses are simply lenses optimised to work over the smaller image
circle that a cropped 35mm sensor requires. Reduces price and perhaps
size and weight. More cost-effective.

On the other hand, the 4/3-system lenses are designed to make the light
incident at an angle nearer to 90 degrees than is possible with revamped
35mm SLR designs, and typical silicon sensors react worse to off-axis
light than does 35mm film. So it is entirely possible that the
performance is better, particularly near the edges of the image.

David

 

Again, what camera models, what lenses, and what, exactly, are you
comparing in the images?

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What about posting as adults with some consideration for others do?

 

The glass have self colour and chromatic corrections can alter colour in
your images, even if everything else is perfect a lens can still
disappoint.

 

Lenses are made with glass of different color. Especially if they're
from different manufacturers in widely separated years. (The lenses for
one camera-system from one manufacturer are generally reasonably uniform
in color rendition.)

I don't mean really blatant "bright red" types of different colors, but
differences that can be measured and even seen quite easily.

 

You said "FINISHED DIGITAL IMAGE"!! (See, I can yell, too.) Still, it is
impossible to answer the question without knowing what lenses, camera
bodies, internal processing, etc. were used, or without seeing examples.

 

Still too many possible variables...

-Were both using the right WB setting?
-Were apertures within similarly sharp range for their lenses (two or three
stops up from wide open, usually around f8-or so)? ...If the lens settings
weren't optimal, it's very tough to scrutinize a sensor or body.
-Was camera-motion blur a factor?
-Subject motion?